Eliane B (11 June 2011)
"To Dianne Talsma - Re: "60 days not 10 days and is the second wheat harvest a Shavuot?""


In response to: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2011/diannet69.htm


Dear Dianne,


My answers are below, in red color.






On which "Shauot" then did the Disciples receive Ruach HaKodesh and do both of these wheat harvests end with a feast called "Shavout"?

Answer: On the Feast of Shavuot, on the 29th day of the 4th Hebrew month. There is just one correct Feast of Shavuot, not two. The end of the 7th Sabbath complete is an intermediate counting only (which had some commemoration but was not the greatest date). Only when Shavuot was FULLY COME that they received the Holy Spirit.


 Yeshua was on earth for 40 days after His Resurrection and then told the Disciples to wait until they received The Spirit.  So the Disciples had to wait 60 days and not the 10 days from Ascension to (the first?) Shavuot? 

Answer:  They waited from the day Christ ascended until the 29th day of the 4th Hebrew month. Definetely not 10 days.


First Fruits in Nisan (first month) is not for barley but for wheat?

Answer: Firstfruits is on the 16h day of Nisan, where they present the firstfruits (the first ones that begin to mature) at that Feast day. Mostly barley or perhaps only barley.


Is wine not 50 days after (the first?) Shavuot? 

Answer: There is no first Shavuot or second Shavuot. On the correct Feast of Shavuot (on the 29th day of the 4th Hebrew month) there are already ripe grapes to be pressed and prepare new wine, even if there are more grapes to be harvest later.


Is oil not 14 weeks after (the first?) Shavuot?

Answer: Scriptures don’t say that oil must by from new olives. It simply says that the vats are full of wheat (which must be from the new offering, i.e., wheat planted in the beginning of spring), new wine and oil. Only the wheat and the wine are new. If there are already ripe olives, I can’t say and Scripture don’t seem to suggest that the oil must be new.


And grape harvest doesn't end at Yom Kippur?

Answer: It’s not important to know when the grape harvest ends, but just to know that there are already ripe grapes to produce new wine at the time of Shavuot.