On Fivedoves list of posts for May 31st, I submitted one that contained the following with respect to the 9th-11th of Av:

I am thinking that though the Spirit came upon folks in Acts 2, that God, through the empowerment of the 120 followers of Jesus, was giving the nation of Israel/Judah a second chance to accept the earthbased kingdom centered on the Lord Jesus Christ.  That Acts 2 was not initially the beginning of what we call the church age.  When Peter quoted from Joel, the context of Joel that says, in 2:28, "It will come about after this . . ." is the earthly kingdom of Jesus that will be established after Israel/Judah returns to God after a time of refinement (see Joel 2 starting at verse 1, noting verse 17 in particular).

At the stoning of Stephen, I believe that was a mark in time of Judah rejecting the kingdom again, and is why the account of Saul/Paul starts at that time in Acts.  In a way, that moment of Paul's conversion and the healing of his blindness by the one whose name means "grace", and this being done outside of the land of Israel/Judah, that that moment was, in a sense, when the church age started in an embryonic form.  But at that moment of Paul's conversion, scattered Israel had not had the kingdom offered to them.  That was in part what Paul going to accomplish through his travels.  In other words, though the church age had "begun", it was not fully in place yet.

In total, there was to be a 40 year transitional time period.

The whole book of Acts is a laying out of that transition.  It wasn't until the very last chapter of Acts, after Paul had gone all over the place proclaiming the kingdom centered on Jesus, both to Jews outside the land, as well as to Gentiles, that Paul proclaimed in that last chapter, that the focus would, from then on, be on the Gentiles.  See Acts 28:24-28.

So when did that transitional period/season as detailed in the book of Acts officially end?  Or, to put the question another way, when did the time of the church age fully get locked into place?

At the 9/10/11th of Av, when the temple was destroyed in 70 ad.  I believe the church age was fully in place at that time.  God made it very clear.  There was no doubt.

I am thinking the true timing of the Feast of Pentecost is a Moed-themed timing of God having fully implemented a need for "new wine skins".

The reason I am representing this is that I am thinking that the 9th-11th of Av is when it will be totally over for us in a given year.  This year those dates per the Jewish Hebcal is about August 13-15.

In my mind, before that final completion date is done, there still needs to be a 40 day sign of Jonah to Ninevah.  I am thinking folks stopped thinking in terms of that this yeear because of the seeming failure of what a number of us thought that the April 8th eclipse potentially represented.  However, that prophecy by Jesus has not happened yet.

If I back up 40 days from the 9th of Av per the Hebcal, I land on the 4th of July.  That is very interesting in my mind.  Might that be the timing of an event with respect to an "end of the church age Babylon" judgment that requires an "harpatzo" for many of us?  Or will that be a mark in time as to when the 40 sign of Jonah to a world wide Ninevah will begin?  I am putting ideas on the table, so to speak.  How Jesus wraps up our age is still very blurry to me.

If valid (that the 40 days ends at the 9-11th of Av, the above is interesting for another reason, namely that those very same 40 days on the Hebcal are the very same days between when Noah finally saw the tops of the mountains and when he released the raven (type/shadow of antichrist) and the dove.  It was on Noah's 1st of his 10th month that he saw the tops of the mountains (per Jubilees or Jasher, I do not remember which) and him releasing the raven and dove after 40 days per the scriptures, or the 11th of his 11th month (11-11 anyone?).

What is yet even additionally interesting with the above 40 day window is that it is the same period of time that the 12 spies were scoping out the land.  In other words, about the 11th of Av, God wanted Israel to enter the promised land.

Might the above 40 day timeframe apply to us in some way?

Does that negate us going on June 21-23-ish as I presented in the prior posts?  

Not necessarily.  I am thinking that there may be a two part rapture to close out the chruch age.  Between those two raptures there will be a 40 day sign of Jonah to Ninevah.  And possibly between those two raptures there might be a total of 50 days with an additional three days of some kind of darkness prior to the 50.

I do not have it figured out.  There might be two different 40 day counts offset from one another by 10 days.  Bear with me.  I know I am coming across a bit mentally retarded.  It would be really helpful if we could sit across the table from each other, hammering this stuff out.

I believe true Pentecost is about the 1st day of the 5th month.  10 days later is the closeout window (9th - 11th of Av).  Some might think that the church age, though it was officially in place on the 9th/10th of Av in 70 AD, that it actually started way back on Pentecost per Acts 2.  If this is valid, what you then have is an age starting out on a particular date, and coming to a close 10 days after the original anniversary beginning date.  Do we find that in another place in scripture?  Yes.  Noah's flood started on the 17th day of his 2nd month but he finally was able to get off the ark on the 27th day of his 2nd month, or 10 days past the original anniversary date.

Might that happen to us?  Might there be a final 10 day wait?  from say, true Pentecost on the 1st of the 5th, to when the final group is raptured (after Jonah's 40 day warning) or on the 10/11th of Av? all because of those pesky 10 days that got removed so as to implement the Gregorian calendar?  I do not know but a 10 day wait is mentioned in at least three other places in the scriptures : Laban asking Rebekah to not leave right away to go to her bridegroom Isaac, Daniel asking that he and his three friends be judged for 10 days per them holding true to God, and what Jesus told the church of Smyrna.

I know I am confusing here.  Let me finish this by expressing the above in a different way.

Let's say we indeed go on the weekend of June 21-23 per what I expressed in the prior posts.  I then wonder if, similar to what Jesus did, that after an initial rapture/removal event, there will be initially three days of darkness followed by some of us coming back and declaring a 40 day warning sign of Jonah to Ninevah.  The folks who believe the message within that 40 days will be saved.  This 40 days ends at Pentecost.  

Perhaps these very same folks who heed the warning of Jonah, will be sealed by the Spirit on the day of Pentecost.  The Holy Spirit, or the Restrainer, has not been removed yet.

However, what the above group does not know is that there will be a seeming "10 day delay" between them being sealed, having heeded the Jonah warning, until the final removal which they will have to wait out.  Their 40 warning was still valid yet their is a total of 50 days.  Adding in the initial 3 days of some type of darkness, brings the total to 53 days.  June 22nd to August 14th is 53 days.

At the above mark in time of Pentecost, or the 1st of the 5th month, when the 40 days end, there is still yet a wait of 10 days.  At that ending of the 40 days, that is when Moses came down from the mountain and cast down the two stone tablets.  Might that be the same timing as to when He who is without sin will cast the first of more than one stone?  With the folks being sealed on the anniversary of when the Holy Spirit came upon the 120, they are set for that 10 day wait, even if they end up dying from the throwing of asteroids by Jesus.