Hi John and Doves,

I went back into revelation and Daniel 7 to relook at the sequence, hoping to find more hints
that the Harpazo is sooner...

I found a few "link words" that traditionally have linked parts of revelation, but when you look at the greek word it may not be a link

eg
REV 8 - is there a change that 7th seal / silence is THE END, and then the trumpets are a new vision????
REVELATION 14 - often summarised as "then I looked", but could be "Again I looked", or "when I looked", or "also I looked" - so this COULD BE A TOTALLY NEW VISION not linked to the previous one


So it seems POSSIBLE that the 7 seals happen as one vision which MAY be seperate to the 7 trumpets as a seperate vision.
This would mean, revelation 6 is a vision.
Then revelation 7 MAY be a seperate stand alone vision, which may be in a different sequence.
144,000 and great multitude.
(So this vision in Rev 7 MAY be in sequence, or it may not - I am still hopefull that the rapture is hidden within the 3rd horse/seal(the oil and the wine/vine), and
that the first 2 horses are done and we are almost there)

Then revelation 8:1 may be John writing "oh by the way, when the 7th seal was opened, then things were quiet

Rev 8: When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour.


Then Rev 8:2 may be a totally different vision, not in sequence necesarily

First trumpet - A third of the earth was burned up

I am hoping that the 4th and 6th seal match all the bad stuff including the trumpets

I am hoping that Rev 7, the 144000 and the multitude and the rapture are all at the timing of the 3rd seal (the oil and the wine/vine)


I have previously thought that Rev 10:11 meant that "the next part was another vision which overlaps the earlier", which I still think
is likely, wheras before I thought that Rev 6 to 8 was a parallel to Rev 12 to 14,... but...

Rev 10:11 Then I was told, "You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, languages and kings."

The word Harpazo is only in 2 places

Revelation 12

1 Thess 4:17


So, likely the Rev 12 Child is the rapture of the bride.

Then the 1260 days and Time, times and half a time.

So, hopefully the Beast and the Mark are after we have gone.

Rev 13: 5The beast was given a mouth to utter
proud words and blasphemies and to
exercise his authority for forty-two
months.

7He was given power to make war
against the saints and to conquer them.
And he was given authority over every
tribe, people, language and nation.
8All inhabitants of the earth will worship
the beast-

The term "saints" back in Daniel 7 means "holy ones" and sometimes points to Angels, and sometimes holy servants of God.

So Maybe the Saints in this 42 month period are those in Israel that God is calling back to him as per Zechariah

Zech 12:2 Make Jerusalem a cup...
Zech 12:10 residents of Jerusalem, and they will look at me whom they pierced. They will mourn for him.. weep bitterly ....


So, MAYBE Rev 14 is a flash back to around the time of the rapture.
144,000 .. sang a new song before the throne
angle flying to proclaim the gospel

Rev 14: 14 I looked, and there before me was a
white cloud, and seated on the cloud
was one "like a son of man" with a
crown of gold on his head and a sharp
sickle in his hand.
15Then another angel came out of the
temple and called in a loud voice to him
who was sitting on the cloud, "Take your
sickle and reap, because the time to
reap has come, for the harvest of the
earth is ripe."

16So he who was seated on the cloud
swung his sickle over the earth, and the
earth was harvested.

And again, hopefully this Rev 14 flashback is back to before all the wrath starts

Rev 15 again may be out of sequence and maybe the 7 last plagues/bowls are a different view of the 7 trumpets.

eg if we look at number 3
Rev 16:4 4The third angel poured out his bowl on
the rivers and springs of water, and they
became blood.

Rev 8 :10The third angel sounded his trumpet,
and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell
from the sky on a third of the rivers and
on the springs of water--
11the name of the star is Wormwood. A
third of the waters turned bitter, and
many people died from the waters that
had become bitter.


The 3rd trumpet and bowl seem similar, BUT the first bowl is the tricky one as this one must happen AFTER people have taken the mark of the beast.

Rev16:2The first angel went and poured out his
bowl on the land, and ugly and painful
sores broke out on the people who had
the mark of the beast and worshiped his
image.

So, if the rapture is hopefully hidden in the 3rd seal/horse, and the bad stuff happens after this, then likely the Mark of the Beast
happens near the start of the last 3.5 years, and maybe is even part of the catalyst for it all, and Satan getting cast out of heaven.

So maybe the 3rd seal horse (which looking at the greek word is more likely YOKE instead of SCALES), then maybe the YOKE is the vaccine
passport leading up to the mark, and we are out of here before the full mark.
(Horse 1 and 2 are possible the CORONA and the JAB (little many swords)

Then there are a few "ending visions" which may be "the end of the seals", and the end of the trumpets

Rev 11:15 - The Kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and Christ
End of 7th trumpet is "the end"
Time has come for judging the dead
Gods temple in Heaven was opened ;.. Lightning / thunder / earthquake


other parallel ending
Rev 16 - 7 bowls of Gods wrath
First angel Bowl. Painful sores on those who have the mark of the beast
4th Angel sun scorched
kings/battle / armaggedon
7th Angel - it is done / lightening / thunder / earthquake


Then maybe revelation 19 is a vision that goes back and takes in the rapture and then the wedding (maybe the wedding happens at the same time
as the 1260 days on earth), and then after the wedding we join Jesus right at the end of the 1260 days


REV 19 - great multitude in heaven / Hallelujah / Glory .. To our God
Wedding of the lamb / bride
Heaven Standing open / white horse /With Justice he makes war.
Armies of heaven following him
He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of the almighty
Beast captured / deluded those with the mark / lake of sulfur
Rev 20 - seized dragon / bound 1000 years
Thrones / those beheaded / not taken mark of beast / THEY came to life and reigned 1000 years
(((So is this a different group than "the bride/wedding"????)))


REV21 - the bride / the wife of the lamb
Holy City Jerusalem
High wall / gates/gold
Lord almighty and the lamb are its temple (In the city)
The nations walk by its light, the kings of the earth will bring their splendour into it
((So are "the nations" a different group to "the bride/wife of the lamb"???))



Please Jesus come soon!!!!!!!!!!