John, Doves, Rajan, and Geoffrey Grider, NTEB

Transferred July 4, 2021 by K S Rajan. 

Source: N T E B, 

Geoffrey Grider et all:

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/nteb-radio-bible-study-will-god-forgive-person-who-takes-mark-of-the-beast 

N T E B 

[Now The End Begins] stated in their article that "the Bible offers no hope of any kind

to any person who takes the Mark..... 

None, zero, nada, zilch."

The article relays the fact that we must rightly divide the Word of God when approaching this matter.

Rightly dividing the Word means, to me, that we are to list all the verses in the Bible that are P R O the matter at hand.

(for the hope of heaven). 

Then we are to list all the

C O N  verses (against the hope of heaven in this matter) in the Bible.

Then we are to weigh those verses in the balance of discernment, that only the Holy Spirit can give.

In the above article, Pastor John MacArthur is stated as saying that people can be forgiven who take the 666 Mark of the Beast.

One can easily see that that is an incomplete statement, and as such is in biblical-demonic error, until corrected. It may cause many to wind up in the Lake of Fire. 

And God will require their souls at the hand of the one who spoke publically in confident error. That's

an awful lot of population.

We need to be very explicit

in this matter. There can be *no room for error.*

Most importantly, that public statement will cause many to lose their soul.

That is why I feel compelled to respond.

Let's play the reel all the 

way out to the end whereby we can all see that that type of thinking breeds "I can have my cake and eat it too."

Revelation 14:9-11 tells us that we cannot take the 666 M O B, and that if we do, we will be in the Lake of Fire forever. Included in that warning is the fact that we cannot worship the Beast.

It is good that we are warned by angels not to take the Mark.

However, God has more to say on that subject, and it should be

 *researched thoroughly* so that there be no confusion when 

dealing with such a weighty matter, especially when presenting that message to the public.

We must be prepared to examine other verses in the Bible that explain

"the whole counsel of God". Acts 20:27

For instance, God says in Mark 9 :43-48...

"And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off.

"It is better for thee to *enter into life* maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched.

Where their worm dieth 

not, and the fire is not quenched."

In other words, if you *inadvertently* took the 666 M O B, without adequate knowledge, and then find out the damning consequences, and you do not want to lose your hope of heaven, you will have to forfeit your right hand in order to receive forgiveness from God.

**AMPUTATION is a prerequisite for forgivness in this matter.**

One must cut off his right hand, the source of temptation, so that that person will not return to that transaction ever again.

To me, that reveals God's lovingkindness to allow the sincerely misguided to cut off their hand rather than to suffer the pains of hell.

The Bible (Jesus) issues the same prerquisite for the foot, and also for the eye.

We know that the M O B

is also placed in the forehead, the place wherein the eye resides.

So my understanding is that one would have to pluck out his eye in order to be forgiven for taking the Mark.

The above verse includes forgiveness when it says, 

"It is better to *enter into life"*...than to go to hell.

True life includes eternal life.

There are other verses that weigh in on the

P R O side....verses that maintain the position that repentance can be found for even taking the 666 Mark of the Beast, 

*if taken inadvertently*, being the only exception to the general command.

Inadvertently=

mistakenly,

not fully intended, 

unintentional

The making of amends is so severe that it would keep other people from going through all of that, and thus they would not take the 666 Mark of the Beast.

God, in His wisdom, did not include the forgiving provision within the Rev.14:9-11 command because (as I see it) God knows our squirming attitude and how we would look for any loop hole to get out of this raw obedience.

So for those caught in this dilemma of taking the Mark inadvertently, He gave the SEEKING heart a provision. Here's the forgiving-redeeming provision:

Matthew 5:29

"And if thy *right* hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee.

For it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be  cast into hell."

Notice the alluding to the *right* hand, which tips us off immediately that this reference verse in the Gospel directly refers to the 

Revelation 13: 16-18 command. 

No mistaking it.

Matthew 18: 8, 9

"Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off and cast them from thee. 

It is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands, or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire."

"And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee. 

It is better for thee to enter into life with one eye,  rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire."

That is a very severe judgement.

 

It should be noted here that Matthew--the opening Gospel--emphasizes this 

verse *twice* within his Gospel, signifying how important it is that we understand this concept.

Do we know anyone who has self- inflicted these wounds? No.

No one would do these things to themselves unless it was the End  Times, pertaining to the 666 M O B;

and only if hell was the consequence for not making these amends.

1 Corinthians 4:5

 "Therefore judge nothing before the time

 *until the Lord come*, Who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels (motives) of the hearts. And then shall every man have praise of God."

Only God can see into the heart of a person

We can not. 

Therefore we have a lack of understanding why a person would take the Mark in the first place. He may have known of the command, but did not have a clear understanding or Realization of the consequences.

That means a sincerely righteous person was not assisted in comprehending the ramifications of taking the M O B, not having the many opportunities we in the progressive nations  have who have books of interpretation on this event.

"To whom much is given,  much is required"

Luke 12:48.

It is my belief that since the church at large, both ministers and laity, did little to warn people when we had such easy opportunities to do so---

before censorship became the norm---

that we now have a Biblicly-illiterate global populace. 

Some did spread the warning, however many did not.

How else would you evaluate the state we're in today?

Remember

when our Lord said on the cross, 

"Father, forgive them for they know not what they do".  Luke 23: 34

Now we all know that those soldiers knew exactly what they were doing. They were killing a Man who was known for His goodness among the people.

They knew. But they did not *Realize* that Jesus was/is God, nor did they Realize the full consequence of their actions.

Later, when the Realization was made known to them, some of those soldiers-- and others-- repented, and were forgiven, because of the prayer that Jesus uttered from the cross.

There is a difference between knowing something, and 

Realizing something.

The main consideration of a soul in any circumstance is assessing their

*willingness* to obey

the words of God.

If someone took the 666 Mark of the Beast, without willful disobedience being involved, then they were not willing to worship the Beast, nor to take the 666 economic Mark in bold defiance.

They, for reasons known only to God, inadvertently

took the Mark. God, and God alone, will be the Judge. 

If such a person finds himself in this condition and repents, and then the  aggressive say to him

unequivocally: 

"You will go to hell.

There is no possible forgiveness for you, ever."

Then that sincerely mis-guided person will give up trying, and he well may lose heaven.

But his soul will be required at your hand.

You did not point that one to the only road left open  to him for Salvation, Redemption and Deliverance. You did not show him: 

• Mark 9:43-48

• Matthew 5:29,30

• Matthew 18:8, 9

unequivocal= leaving no doubt

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THE *ONLY* REASON A PERSON CANNOT BE FORGIVEN

Matthew 12:31

"*All* manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men.

But the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall *not* be forgiven unto men.

And whosoever shall speak against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him .

But whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall *not* be forgiven him.

Either in this world, nor in the world to come."

Mark 3:28

Verily I say unto you, 

*All* sins of men shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies

wherewith soever they shall blaspheme.

"But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath *never* forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation."

Please note the Word "All",

in the phrase " All sins shall be forgiven".

That word means that there is no other sin which cannot be forgiven but this sin....sinning against the Person of the Holy Ghost...the third Divine Person of the Holy Trinity.

For me, to sin against the Holy Ghost is to harden the conscience so much that you wear down the sensors that the Holy Ghost signals to you each day to guide you. 

Soon you become totally insensitive to others and especially to God. You become reprobate. You are no longer reachable by God. Hitler was reprobate. Unreachable.

 

Luke 12:10

"And whosoever shall speak against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him.

But unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven."

Hebrews 10:26

"For if we sin *willfully* after that we have received the knowledge of the Truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins."

Willingness to disobey is what constitutes judgment.

Lacking full knowledge of

what our choices involve,

is not willingness to disobey.

In Conclusion:

One says, "No, no,no!!

The other says,

"Yes, yes, yes".

Rightly dividing the Word says that God has made a special, specific provision, in certain circumstances, for forgiveness in this matter.

And it will cost you dearly.

My perspective:

In no way do I endorse

taking the 666 Mark of the Beast to disobediently gratify self.

"Howbeit, when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come,

He will guide you into all Truth."

John 16:13