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The phrase "when ye shall see" is mentioned (5) times in our
KJV.
1. Matthew 24:33
So likewise ye, "when ye shall see" ALL these' things,
"know" that "the end" is near" even "at" the door(s).
Stop right here.
So likewise what?
When I read; So likewise ye: I ask, likewise what?
I read in the prior verse # 32 because of (:) which relates
verse 32 with verse 33.
Now I read these 2 verses together and I find this.
32) Now' learn the parable of "the fig tree;"
Stop right here.
(Israel is always known to us as the
Fig Tree Nation in our Bible.) It is clear that we are
being directed to the Nation of Israel in verse 32)
continuing...When his' branch is yet tender, and putteth
forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh (:)
and the Lord is telling us "a" particular season of the
year; when he said" ye know that summer is nigh:( also when
Israel is reestablished IN the land, " his branch is yet
tender))
33) So likewise' when ye' shall see "all" these things, know
that "it" is near, even at the doors.
Now I ask; What is "it" that is near even at the
doors in verse 33?
To answer this question I must go back to
verse # 29 in order to understand the "time line".
29) Immediately "after" the tribulation "of those days".
What days and what will be happening?
Verse #28 of Matthew 24 we see...For wheresoever the carcase
is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
When will the carcases be gathered together for the
egales to feast upon the flesh of men?
ARMAGEDDON....when our Lord comes at "the end" of "the
tribulation of those days;" in power and great glory with
ten thousands of his saints. Which will include the 144000
Hebrew virgins, who were redeemed with us.
Let us now read verse 33 in Matthew 24) So likewise ye, when
ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at
the doors. 29) Immediately "after" the tribulation "of those
days" shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give
her light, and "the stars shall fall from heaven, and "the
power" "of the heavens" shall be shaken:
In Matthew 11:12 The Lord tells us what this "the
power of the heaven(s) being shaken is.
>From the days of John the Baptist until "now" the
kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take
it' by force.
( Will the Church see' "all" these things? No; she will
not.) So we learn that it is the "fig tree nation" of which
our Lord is directing us to understand in verse 33 of
Matthew 24: that is the Precept for which we are to
understand.
Where do we "first" read of the stars falling from
heaven in the book of Revelation?
Revelation 6:12-14 we read:
John said; And I beheld when he (the Lamb) had (past tense)
opened the (6th) seal, and, lo, there was a great earth
quake ( a shaking) and the sun became black as sackcloth of
hair, and the moon became as blood; 13) And the stars of
heaven "fell" unto the earth ( the falling away comes first
2 Thess. 2:3) even as a "fig tree," when she' is "shaken" of
a "mighty wind." ( Israel, the fig tree nation represented
here, the144000 Hebrew virgins being shaken of a mighty
wind, "the Holy Ghost." Acts 2:2)
These are the first fruits of the Lamb, who were (past
tense) redeemed from the earth, recorded for us in Rev.
14:1-5)
These 144000 go with the Church in Revelation 6:12-14 when
the heaven is rolled up as a scroll/book. Heaven is shut and
will not open again until later in Revelation. The 144000
Hebrew virgins the first fruit of the Lamb.
Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 15:23 But "every man" in his own
order: Christ the firstfruits; AFTERWARD they' that are his
"at his coming."
Who are his at his coming?
We the Bride and the 144000 Hebrew virgins who
John names for us according to the heads of the
princes of the thousands before the 7th seal is broken
in Revelation 8:1
These are named according to "the heads" of "the princes" of
the thousands in Revelation 7. The seal' in their foreheads
is "their eyes are opened" with the "mighty wind"
which is the Holy Ghost in Rev. 6 verse 12-13.
( This is the rapture)
In Matthew 24: verse 34) we read: Verily I say unto
you, "This generation" ( Stop Right Here) What generation?
The generation that is predetermined to be alive at "that
time", settled in heaven, before the world was.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning (time) God created the heaven
(space) and the (earth) matter. Before the world was.
John 1:1 In the beginning was ( past tense, before the world
was) the word, and the word was God, and the word was
with God. ( before the world was)
Is that generation to be you and I?
I believe it is very possible. We are told to Watch. Mark
13:37 What I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
The Tribulation period is a "set" of 1260 days and 1260 days
and 75 days at the end.
Stop right here.
When is the first set of 1260 to begin?
Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto my 2
Witnesses, and they' shall prophesy a 1000, 200 and 3 score
"days," clothed in sackcloth. Verse 4) THESE are the 2
candlesticks standing before the God "of the earth."
Stop right here.
Who will be the God of "the earth" at this time?
We find our answer in verse 7) And when they (the 2
Witnesses) shall have finished "their testimony" "the beast"
that ascendeth out of "the bottomless pit" shall make
war with them' and shall "overcome them", and "kill them."
These lay in the street 3 days and then the Lord God, says
Come Up Hither in verse 12) and they ascend up to heaven in
a cloud, and "their" enemies beheld them.
THIS...all happens BEFORE the 7th angel sounds his trumpet
in verse 14 of chapter 11. And 2 WOES ARE PAST. The 3rd WOE
is yet to come quickly.
WOE' is mentioned 106 times in our KJV. A good study in
order to see, to whom the Lord says "woe."
Note: Our Lord does not come to us "as a thief in the night"
as so many will say; but when you look a bit closer in the
word, you find that we are looking for the day of Christ,
and also the day of the Lord Jesus. The two advents.
The Day of The Lord, is not a good day!!
Amos 5:18) Woe unto you that desire the day of the Lord (!)
to what "end" is "it" for you? the day of the Lord is
darkness and no light.
The Temple' mentioned in Revelation 11:1-2 is the Temple
that is upon the earth, not the Temple of the Lord, which is
us, which is already in heaven at this point.
We now have our understanding of Matthew 24:33 "when ye
shall see." and who it will be that will see all these
things and when.
We must understand....that the Church ( the house of
God) is judged first, thus the purpose for the letters
to the 7 churches. Only one has a good report.
He who hath an ear let him hear, what the Spirit saith unto
the churches.
We have got to know which church we are a member.
The seals have already begun! for those who are watching and
know just where we are in time.
The White Horse rider is not the antichrist!!
He is a judgment upon the churches. All that invite this
abomination into their churches will not be in the rapture,
but rather cast into outer darkness. Which is not Hell, but
it is "a" hell none the less. It is complete separation from
God in complete darkness, bound and immovable for eternity.
Left only to remember as did the rich man in
Hell.
Now let us deal with the other (4) mentions of "when ye
shall see."
2. Mark 13:14 But "when ye' shall see" the abomination of
desolation, spoken by Daniel the prophet, "standing" where
"it" ought not, (let "him" that readeth understand,) then
let "them" that be in Judaea "flee" into the mountains(:)
Stop right here!
Who will be in Judaea? The remnant of Israel, "not" the
144000 Hebrew virgins.
We are still in the Tribulation "of those days" which is the
1335th "days"
What is being made desolate by this abomination?
It is the "image" of the beast.
Daniel 9:27 And "he" shall confirm the covenant with many
for "one week:" and in the midst' of "the week" HE shall
"cause" the sacrifice and oblation to cease, and "for" the
overspreading of abomination(s) 'he" shall "make" it'
desolate, even "until" the consummation, and that'
determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
WOW!!
What is the consummation? The marriage of the Lamb.
And "that" determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Who are the desolate" The remnant of Israel; BUT according
to Jeremiah 30:7 we read:
Alas! for "that day" is great, so that none is like "it:" it
is even "the time of Jacob's trouble;" but he shall be saved
out of it. Praise the Lord!
We have much to cover just in this verse. Our Lord sent us
"here" for a reason. We who are the "reader" and we
are to "understand" this prophesy.
Very important for us and rightly so.
Because it is not the "overcomer" that will see the
abomination that maketh desolate.
John 5:4 For whatsoever "is born of God" overcometh the
world (:) and "this" is the victory that overcometh the
world, "even our faith."
We are overcomers, and we do not see the wrath of God and we
are not in the "tribulation of those days."
Many Preachers and teachers of this prophesy see it in many
different ways and therefore teach it according to "their"
understanding.
We are to "study" to show ourselves approved "unto God" a
workman, that needeth not to be ashamed, nor are we to trust
the words of men. Let God be true and "every man a liar.
That includes me and anyone else.
I am writing my understanding as the Spirit has directed me
by the scriptures, and as always, to reprove me or
anyone else concerning the words written in our Bible. For
no' prophesy of the scriptures is of any private
interpretation. (2 Peter 1:20)
But we can follow the Spirit that gathered these words in
our Bible and rightly "divide" the scriptures of which
God's mouth commanded. (Isaiah 34:16 and Isaiah 55:11) and
His Spirit, "it" hath gathered them.
Let us go back to Mark 13:14) We read: Then let them' that
be in Judaea "flee" into the mountain(s)
Let us take a look at Revelation 12:6 and let us
"note" that in Revelation 11:15 the 7th angel sounded his
Trumpet, and in 11:14 the 2nd WOE is past and behold, the
3rd cometh quickly. As we noted in our study of Matthew
24:33) We are in the same time period just after the 2
Witnesses are taken up in Revelation 11:12, and 1260 days,
=ing 31/2 years have past.
So we can know that these that are in Judaea are the
remnant of the children of Israel, and not the 144000 Hebrew
virgins.
We can know that NOW the 7th angel has sounded his trumpet,
"after the 2 Witnesses are taken up.
There has been 1260 days =ing 31/2 years from
Revelation 11:2-12 before the 7th angels sounds his trumpet
in verse 15)
We have our time period for Mark 13:34
Who' is being addressed in this verse as to "when ye shall
see"? The people of Israel, the remnant of her' seed. Not
the 144000 which "were" redeemed according to Revelation
14:3-4.
Remember....In Genesis 1:14 Our Lord said of the "lights" in
the firmament of the "heaven" to divide the day from the
night; AND let them be for "signs", and for seasons, and for
days, and "years:"
So when we read of this great wonder in heaven in Revelation
12:1-5) there are (2) wonders taking place in the heaven.
These are "signs" as Genesis 1:14 quotes.
These "signs" appear "after" the 7th angel sounds "his"
trumpet in Revelation 11:15.
In Revelation 12:10 we read of those of us who "are" in
heaven and are saying; NOW "is" ( present tense) come
salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of "our" God, and
the power "of his Christ:"
Why?
Because the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which
accused (past tense) them before our God day and night.
We read also in Revelation 11:15 when' the 7th angels
sounded; there were great "voices in heaven" saying, The
kingdom(s) of "this world" are become the kingdoms
of our' Lord, and of his Christ; and "he" shall (
future tense) reign for ever and ever.
We the Church and the 144000 Hebrew virgins are "in" heaven
here.
So according to Mark 13:14 It is not the Church that will
see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the
prophet. It is the remnant of Her, Israel's seed that will
see this abomination, because there will be a temple here on
earth at that time.
So also when we read in Revelation 11:1-2 This temple is the
same said temple on earth, and the court is given unto "the
Gentiles" and they' shall tread the "holy city" underfoot
for 40 and 2 months: which equals the 1260 days of which the
2 Witnesses are present; and are taken up in verse 12.
Before the 7th angel sounds his trumpet in Revelation 11:15.
Did you ever wonder why Paul phrased this
to the Thessalonians in such a manner?
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord "himself" shall descend
from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel,
and with the trump of God: and the dead shall rise first:
17) Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up
together with "them" in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the
air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18) Wherefore
"comfort" one another with these words.
We see "the voice of the archangel" mentioned here with the
dead and we who are alive and remain.
Understand....the archangel is Michael, Israel's prince.
His voice is for the 144000 Hebrew virgins that go with us.
1. The dead first
2. The 144000 the firstfruits of the Lamb
3. We who are alive and remain.
We need another witness for a truth.
Let us go back to Numbers 10:1-8 and read;
1) And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 2) Make thee TWO
trumpets of silver; of A WHOLE PIECE shalt thou make
THEM: that thou mayest "use them" FOR THE CALLING OF THE
ASSEMBLY, and for the JOURNEYING OF THE CAMPS.
Stop right here!
1. calling of the assembly
2. Journeying of the camps.
This is a picture of the gathering of the congregation
(righteous at his coming) and for the (journeying of the
congregation at his glorious appearing at the end, an alarm)
3) And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly
shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the
tabernacle of the congregation.
Stop right here!
When the TWO are blown (them' being more than one) all the
assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of
the tabernacle "of the congregation."
4) And if they blow but with "ONE" trumpet, then' "the
princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel," shall
gather themselves unto thee.
Stop right here!
Notice it is ONE trumpet sound that is to gather the heads
of the Princes of the thousands to thee.
We also notice in verse 14-27 these were named by the heads
of the "their" tribes, as we also read in Revelation 7
before the 7th sealed judgment is broken in Revelation 8:1
5) When ye blow an ALARM, then' the camps that lie on the
east part(s) shall go forward.
6) When ye blow and ALARM the "second" time, then the camps
that lie on the south side shall take their journey: they'
shall blow an ALARM for their journey(s).
7) BUT when THE CONGREGATION is "to be gathered
together", ye shall blow, but "ye shall NOT SOUND AN ALARM.
Stop right here!
No alarm when the congregation is to be gathered together.
The church is the congregation. We will here the SHOUT of
the Lord "himself" for the dead first, then The heads of the
princes of the thousands will here the voice of the
archangel, Michael, their Prince, and then we who are alive
and remain will here the TRUMP of God which sounds like
an trumpet exceedingly loud.
NOW verse 9) And if ye (Israel) go to war "in your land"
against "the enemy" that opresseth you, then' ye shall
blow an ALARM with "the trumpet(s); and ye "shall be
remembered" before the Lord your God, and ye shall "be
saved" FROM your enemies.
Stop right here!
Now let us look in Revelation 11:12 where the 2 Witnesses
are caught up into heaven. and in verse 13) we read:
And the same hour' was there a "great earthquake, and the
TENTH part of "the city" FELL, and in the earthquake were
slain of men 7 thousand: and "the remnant" were AFRIGHTED,
and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Stop right here.
The Remnant were affrighted, not the 144000 Hebrew virgins.
In Chapter 12:3 after the great wonder in heaven "a
great red dragon" with 7 heads and 10 horns upon his head(s)
4) drew a 1/3 part of the stars of heaven, and did cast
them' to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman.
( remember this is a great "sign" in heaven)
6) And the woman "fled" into the wilderness, where she hath
a place prepared of God, that they' should feed her (the
remnant) there 1260 days.
We are talking a total of 7 years +75 days.
1260 days for the TWO Witnesses
The first 1/2 of the Tribulation period is finished when the
2 Witnesses are taken up.
The 2nd set of 1260 days BEGIN for the Remnant to
be kept and fed in her place for which God had
prepared for her in the wilderness. Starting in
Revelation 12:6
Remember we are looking at a 7 year period of time +another
75 days at the end.
A lot happens from Revelation 12:6 through Revelation 20:1-3
where the dragon is cast into the bottomless pit for 1000
years.
We find a reference from Matthew 24:28 in Revelation 19:21.
Matthew 24:28 Wheresoever the carcase is, there' will the
eagle be gathered together.
Revelation 19:21 And the "remnant" were slain with the sword
of him that sat upon the horse, which proceeded out of his
mouth: and all' the fowls were filled with their' flesh.
Stop right here.
Who is the "remnant" here?
We find our answer in the previous verse #20 Those who had
received the mark of the beast, and them' that worshipped
his image.
ALL this in a 7 year period.
Time' is running out for the churches and for those who
follow "the spirit" that NOW worketh in the children of
disobedience. (the prince of the power of the air.)
Matthew 24:42 Watch ye therefore: for ye know
not what "hour" your Lord doth come.
I'm keeping on the Watch.
Mount Sion
According to my KJV mount Sion is mentioned (3) times in the
whole of the scriptures.
1. Deuteronomy 4:48 From Aroer, which is by the bank of the
river Arnon, even unto mount Sion, which is Hermon, 49) And
all the plain on "this" side Jordan "eastward", even unto
the sea of the plain, under the springs of Pisgah. 47) And
they' (Israel) possessed his land, and the land of Og king
of Bashan, TWO kings of the Amorites, which were on "this"
side Jordan toward the sunrising; (GIANTS)
It is believed that Hermon was where the angels came down
from heaven to do this evil with the daughters of men.
Paul writes to the Hebrews in 12:22-24 concerning to where
they the Hebrews have come unto mount Sion, AND unto the
city of the living God, the "heavenly " Jerusalan, and to an
"innumerable" company of angels, 23) To the "general
assembly and church of the firstborn, (Christ)
Earlier we read Paul speaking of where they in the Exodus
had come to Mount Sinai.
But here we see that the mount Sion is in heaven and in the
company of an innumerable company of angels.
When those angels came down in Genesis to have their way
with the daughters of man, these angels were not
innumerable.
Makes one wonder why these angels chose that very mount
(Hermon) to descend upon?!
The Last mention is in Revelation 14:1. Here we see the Lamb
standing with the 144000 having their Father's name written
in their foreheads.
Relate this passage with the above text of "when ye shall
see". and when the 144000 Hebrew virgins go with the church
in Revelation 6:12-14, and all the individuals in 6:15-17
recognize that it is the Lamb and He' that sitteth on the
throne, who is bringing the wrath upon them; and who shall
be able to stand?
Remember ...Psalms 119:89 For ever, O Lord, thy word is
settled in heaven.
Before the world was.
Before Time, Space, and Matter
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning (Time) God created the heaven
(Space) and the earth. (Matter)
Our Lord prayed the Father in John17:1-26
I draw attention to verse (5) And now, O Father, glorify
thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with
thee "before the world was."