David H (30 July
2013)
"Charles
Holler...bewitching Christians"
Charles,
Greetings, I do not think I have communicated with you directly.
A response to your letter to Frank M.
I believe that this more complex an issue than many of us make
it out to be. Yes, I am in full agreement with you regarding
judging the Tares. It is the Lord that will separate them, as
per 1 Peter 4:17 "17 For it is time for judgment to begin at the
household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the
outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?"
As per this verse, this Judgment is a precursor to the rapture,
and as many of you believe, we are in "those days".
But we are also told to confront the person who is a brother
within the churches who is living ungodly lives. As Paul wrote
In 1 Corinthians 5:9-13.
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually
immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the sexually immoral of
this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since
then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I am
writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name
of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is
an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with
such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is
it not those inside the church[b] whom you are to judge? 13 God
judges[c] those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”
We are also told to confront those who are false prophets and
apostles within our churches by exposing them and their
teachings, by testing the spirits and their fruit as you so
aptly pointed out. Paul writes the following:
12 And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to
undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in
their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. 13
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising
themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for even
Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is no
surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants
of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. (2
Corinthians 11:12-15)
I would conclude from the preceding, therefore, that we are to
test the spirits, and their fruit, and then expose them and
undermine their claims and disassociate with them....And that is
it. We are not to seek vengeance, instead we are to suffer
persecution at their hands, As Christ himself did (1 Peter
2:23). As did all the apostles. Every time in the new testament,
a teaching on false prophets and teachers is written about it is
always followed by a discourse on suffering patiently at their
hands.
Please read my letter from yesterday.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2013/davidh728.htm
Polycarp prayed the following as he was burned at the stake:
" I bless You because You have granted me this day and hour,
that I might receive a portion amongst the number of martyrs in
the cup of Your Christ unto resurrection of eternal life, both
of soul and of body, in the incorruptibility of the Holy Spirit.
May I be received among these in Your presence this day, as a
rich and acceptable sacrifice, as You did prepare and reveal it
beforehand, and have accomplished it, You that art the faithful
and true God." (Martyrdom of Polycarp 14:2)
Eyewitnesses to this marveled as his burning Body smelled of
incense, A sweet aroma to the Lord.
Thank you for your letter, It was a blessing, as is the writing
of Frank M.
God bless. Luke 6:27-30
David H.