Hi Marilyn,
Ok, as I see it, the foolish took no oil
in their vessels –
7 But we have this treasure in earthen
vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God,
and not of us. Here in 2 Cor 4:7 we find that
we need to have this treasure in earthen vessels to be
saved. I would believe that just having the oil in
their lamps would not indicate that they were saved!
They would need to have it in their “earthen
vessel”!
Marilyn we really are
having a great discussion about a very difficult subject,
and I have enjoyed it.
David Blackman,
> 5
foolish took no oil with them – here is the only
difference between > the two. The foolish took no
oil, none, not even a little bit or even a > drop,
NONE!
The foolish virgins had oil in their lamps. They just didn't
have any in an extra vessel.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed
their lamps.
How were "all" trimming their lamps if some were not
burning. - It says they were foolish! LOL
Mat 25:8 (KJV) says, "And the foolish said unto the wise,
Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone (sbennumi, being
quenched, i.e., going) out."
NKJV: "And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of
your oil, for our lamps are going out.'"
These versions also say "going out":
NLT, NIV, ESV, NASB, RSV, ASV, YLT, DBY, HNV
Agape,
Marilyn Agee
mjagee@verizon.net
prophecycorner.theforeverfamily.com
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David Blackman (18 July 2013)
"To Marilyn reply: David Blackman (11 July
2013)"Marilyn...ten virgins"
Hi Marilyn,
You said:
I must not have made it clear enough. I will try again.
How could the five foolish virgins be called "virgins" if
they were not saved? The way we get into that category
is to accept Christ as our own personal Saviour. Our lamps
are lit when we are saved.
The foolish virgins have lighted lamps. They just do not
have extra oil to keep them burning brightly for a long
time. They are already sputtering, threatening to go out.
They just have enough to be saved. They need extra Holy
Spirit to make it through the hard times that will precede
the last Rapture. Those will be the days when they will be
tried.
I would like to take this opportunity to give my
understanding of the parable of the10 virgins.
1. All are virgins - To
me this means all have kept themselves pure. They have done
all the right things!
2. All have lamps – Thy
word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
3. All slumbered and
slept – seems pretty clear to me.
4. All arose, and
trimmed their lamps – All are doing the right things.
5. 5 foolish took no oil
with them – here is the only difference between the
two. The foolish took no oil, none, not even a little
bit or even a drop, NONE!
6. 5 wise took oil in
their vessels – The wise had just enough for themselves.
You said that the foolish had run out of oil or are
sputtering to go out. It seems very clear to me that the
foolish have no oil to begin with. Being virgins or
doing the right things will not save you, nor will having
the word of God save you. To me you must have the oil
or the Holy Spirit to be saved. I am sure they will be
saved in the tribulation time though! One more thought
that I would like to bring out here is that you have made an
assumption that the five foolish virgins are the
Laodiceans. There is no direct link between the
Laodiceans and the foolish virgins in the parable! I agree
the Laodiceans are foolish but they are not the ones from
this parable though.