Mike Plunkett (14 July 2012)
"Reply to Marilyn Agee......My July 11 post to Arlene about the mellinium and raptures of Revelations"


 
Hi Marilyn,

Respectfully, the bible disagrees with you.

Revelations 4:1...........After this I looked, and behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.


Respectfully, this is a voice that sounds like a trumpet to John that is talking to him. It is telling him to come up here and I will show you things that must be hereafter..........

Marilyn, this is obviously an angel that is to show John things to come later on.......thus, the word hereafter is used. John was given the gift of going into heaven in the spirit and was shown the throne of God. The entire chapter 4 of Revelations is a detailed viewing of the throne of God. There is NO rapture mentioned in this chapter.

Revelations chapter 5 is talking about a book that no one is worthy to open. It is sealed. But there is one that is worthy and it is the Lamb....Read: 

verse 5.........And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

6...........And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

7..........And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

8...........And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.


Notice here that the elders had vials which were full of the prayers of saints. The singing in verse 9 is coming from the 4 beasts and the four and twenty elders. Now continue verse 9...


9...........And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;


Notice here that the 24 elders are the ones redeemed unto God. They are part of the government of God and under them are the 144,000 that are the rest of the firstfruits and they to are redeemed unto God and the Lamb. Read:

Revelations 14:4..........These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. Continue:

10...........And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.


Notice here elders continue by saying they will be kings and priests' and shall reign on the earth. Read:


Revelations 21: 6........Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 


Do you see the connection between the elders of chapter 4 and the 144,000 in chapter 14? The 24 elders are made up of the original 12 patriarchs and the 12 desciples. Under them, you have the 144,000 from the 12 tribes, 12,000 from each tribe of the House of Israel. 
These are the firstfruits, and we are told this plainly in revelations. Jesus was the first, the bridegroom. And the 144,000 are the bride. 

They are seen together in Revelations 14: 1.......And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

They all have the Fathers name written in their foreheads representing the taking of the bridegrooms name.


Revelations 7: 14.......Are I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

The tribulation runs clear through to chapter 14: 14, where the rapture takes place of the multitudes the entire EARTH IS REAPED!


Marilyn, The wheat harvest (RAPTURE) does not happen until Revelations 14: 14 ! In this verse, the Son of man is plainly written as the one doing the harvesting, sitting on a white cloud! Verse 16.........And the earth was reaped! The WRATH of GOD does not begin until Chapter 16! ALL are taken before the Wrath of God! But we WILL suffer tribulations and persecutions! It's as plain as day to me, and I hope it is visible to many others as well. We are to prepare our selves because of what is coming on the earth! FEW are those that find the narrow path, as in the days of NOAH...........

YBIC

Mike P