From: Marilyn Agee

 

Hi:

 

> > Respectfully, the bible disagrees with you.

 

I don’t think so.

> > Revelations 4:1...........After this I looked, and behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

> > Respectfully, this is a voice that sounds like a trumpet to John that is talking to him. It is telling him to come up here and I will show you things that must be hereafter..........

> > Marilyn, this is obviously an angel that is to show John things to come later on.......thus, the word hereafter is used. John was given the gift of going into heaven in the spirit and was shown the throne of God. The entire chapter 4 of Revelations is a detailed viewing of the throne of God. There is NO rapture mentioned in this chapter.

 

This is no ordinary angel. It is God, the Angel of the Lord. Rev 1:1 says, “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by HIS ANGEL unto his servant John”.

 

The Angel of the Lord was the preincarnate Son of God. Joh_1:18 says, “No man hath seen God (i.e., the Father) at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”

 

Pro_30:4 says, “Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?” God’s son’s name is Yeshua, Jesus.

 

This is the angel of the Lord that appeared to Moses. Exo_3:2,4  says, “And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him (Moses) in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed....4  And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses.”

 

If there was no Rapture, why are the redeemed saints out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation present around the throne of God? Look at Rev 5:9,10 again. It says, “And they (the redeemed saints) sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us (the wise-virgin saints) to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10  And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on (epi, on or over) the earth.”

 

Psa 149:5-9 says, “Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds. 6  Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand; 7  To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; 8  To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; 9  To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.”

 

The last book in the Bible is “The Revelation of Jesus Christ”. It is written as if the First-Trump Rapture is near, maybe 10 days future. Rev 2:10,11 says, “Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. 11  He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches”.

 

The First-Trump Rapture is “at hand” in the first and last chapters. Rev 1:3 says, “Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.” Rev 22:10 says, “Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.”

 

The Revelation of Jesus Christ is organized  according to Rev 1:19. It says, “Write the things which thou hast seen (i.e., the things before the First-Trump Rapture), and the things which are (at the time of the First-Trump Rapture), and the things which shall be hereafter” (after the First-Trump Rapture). The Last-Trump Rapture is seen later, on the day of God’s Wrath (Rev 6:17, 7:14).

 

> > Notice here that the elders had vials which were full of the prayers of saints. The singing in verse 9 is coming from the 4 beasts and the four and twenty elders. Now continue verse 9...

> > 9...........And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation

 

The pronouns “they” and “us” in verse 9 refer back to the previous noun, “saints” (the last word in 5:8, the chapter and verse divisions were not in the original), and these saints come out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation. There are many more in that group than 28 (24 elders and 4 beasts). “There are 196 countries in the world today.” (www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0932875.html)

Referring to the time of the First-Trump Rapture, Rev 3:16 says to the lukewarm Laodiceans, “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” They get spewed out of the Body of Christ at the time of the First-Trump Rapture, but will be caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture on the Day of God’s Wrath.

 

Those wise-virgin Philadelphians will not be spewed out of his mouth at the time of the First-Trump Rapture. In his Monologue to the seven churches, Jesus said to the Philadelphians, “I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.” (Rev 3:8).

 

John is one of the 24 elders, the 12 patriarchs and 12 apostles of Israel. Rev 4:4 says, “And round about the throne were four and twenty seats (lit., thrones): and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.” John was seated on his throne with the 12 patriarchs and the other 11 apostles that were just caught up in the First-Trump Rapture.

 

THE PRINCES (12 PATRIARCHS AND 12 APOSTLES) SHALL GATHER THEMSELVES TO THEE AT THE FIRST TRUMPET CALL

 

Num 10:1-4 says, “And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Make thee TWO TRUMPETS of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps. 3 And when they shall blow with them (i.e., BOTH), all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. 4 And if they blow but with ONE TRUMPET, then the princes (i.e., 12 patriarchs and 12 apostles of Israel), which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee”.

 

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN IN HEAVEN

 

Heb 12:22-24 says, “But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23  To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24  And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant”.

 

REV. 4

 

> > Marilyn, this is obviously an angel that is to show John things to come later on.......thus, the word hereafter is used. John was given the gift of going into heaven in the spirit and was shown the throne of God. The entire chapter 4 of Revelations is a detailed viewing of the throne of God. There is NO rapture mentioned in this chapter.

 

“COME UP HITHER” IS THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE

 

Rev 4:1-4 says, “After this I looked, and, behold, a door (set before the Philadelphians in Rev 3:8) was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter (after the First-Trump Rapture, Rev 1;19). 2  And immediately I was (lit., became) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one (Jesus, who is both Father and Son, John 10:30) sat on the throne. 3  And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper (first stone in the breastplate) and a sardine stone (last stone in the breastplate, i.e., Jesus is both the first and the last, Isa 44:6, Rev 22:13): and there was a rainbow (i.e., Saturn’s rings, Eze 1:28) round about the throne (Eze 1:26), in sight like unto an emerald (Judah’s stone in the breastplate, i.e., Jesus is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah). 4  And round about the throne were four and twenty seats (thrones): and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment (i.e., given them at the First-Trump Rapture); and they had on their heads crowns of gold” (i.e., also given at the First-Trump Rapture).

 

In John_10:30, Jesus said, “I and my Father are one.”

 

Isa 44:6 says, “Thus saith the LORD (YHWH) the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD (YHWH) of hosts; I am the first (YHWH, King of Israel), and I am the last (YHWH, of hosts, the redeemer); and beside me there is no God.”

 

In Rev 22:13, Jesus said, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.”

 

God can be in two places at once, but to make it easier for mankind to grasp, in chapter 5,  a symbolic lamb representing Christ is given the little book, the Title Deed of the Earth.

 

> > Marilyn, The wheat harvest (RAPTURE) does not happen until Revelations 14: 14 !

 

That is correct. There are two Raptures, the barley harvest and the wheat harvest. The 24 elders and Philadelphian saints are caught up in the barley harvest (and there is a summer barley harvest). The 144,000 Israelites and other Tribulation saints are caught up in the wheat harvest,probably on Tishri 1, 5776. The 144,000 Israelites are the only ones caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture that are able to sing the NEW SONG. They are out of one country, not every country in the world as in Rev 5:9.

 

THE FIRSTFRUITS ARE CAUGHT UP IN TWO RAPTURES, THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE AND THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE, ONE BEFORE THE FALSE PROPHET DEFILES THE TEMPLE, ONE JUST BEFORE THE WRATH OF GOD IS POURED OUT ON THE DAY OF GOD’S WRATH

 

AT THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE, ALL SAINTS SING THE NEW SONG

 

Rev 4:1  says, “After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither.”

 

Rev 5:8-10 says, “And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And they (i.e., the saints, including the 24 elders) sung a NEW SONG, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.”

 

AT THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE, ONLY THE 144,000 ISRAELITES SING THE NEW SONG

 

Rev 14:1-5 says, “I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2  And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3  And they (i.e., the 144,000) sung as it were a NEW SONG before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and NO MAN COULD LEARN THAT SONG BUT THE HUNDRED AND FORTY AND FOUR THOUSAND, which were redeemed from the earth. 4  These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5  And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.”

 

Psa 149:5-9 says,  “Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them SING aloud upon their beds. 6  Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand; 7  To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; 8  To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; 9  To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have ALL HIS SAINTS. Praise ye the LORD.”

 

The Last-Trump Rapture is on the Day of God’s Wrath (probably the Feast of Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015) (Rev. 6:17, 7:14).

Agape,

Marilyn Agee

mjagee@verizon.net

prophecycorner.theforeverfamily.com

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Hi Marilyn,

 

Respectfully, the bible disagrees with you.

Revelations 4:1...........After this I looked, and behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

 

Respectfully, this is a voice that sounds like a trumpet to John that is talking to him. It is telling him to come up here and I will show you things that must be hereafter..........

 

Marilyn, this is obviously an angel that is to show John things to come later on.......thus, the word hereafter is used. John was given the gift of going into heaven in the spirit and was shown the throne of God. The entire chapter 4 of Revelations is a detailed viewing of the throne of God. There is NO rapture mentioned in this chapter.

 

Revelations chapter 5 is talking about a book that no one is worthy to open. It is sealed. But there is one that is worthy and it is the Lamb....Read:

verse 5.........And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

 

6...........And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

 

7..........And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

 

8...........And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

 

Notice here that the elders had vials which were full of the prayers of saints. The singing in verse 9 is coming from the 4 beasts and the four and twenty elders. Now continue verse 9...

 

9...........And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

 

Notice here that the 24 elders are the ones redeemed unto God. They are part of the government of God and under them are the 144,000 that are the rest of the firstfruits and they to are redeemed unto God and the Lamb. Read:

 

Revelations 14:4..........These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. Continue:

 

10...........And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

 

Notice here elders continue by saying they will be kings and priests' and shall reign on the earth. Read:

 

Revelations 21: 6........Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

Do you see the connection between the elders of chapter 4 and the 144,000 in chapter 14? The 24 elders are made up of the original 12 patriarchs and the 12 desciples. Under them, you have the 144,000 from the 12 tribes, 12,000 from each tribe of the House of Israel.

These are the firstfruits, and we are told this plainly in revelations. Jesus was the first, the bridegroom. And the 144,000 are the bride.

 

They are seen together in Revelations 14: 1.......And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

 

They all have the Fathers name written in their foreheads representing the taking of the bridegrooms name.

 

Revelations 7: 14.......Are I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

 

The tribulation runs clear through to chapter 14: 14, where the rapture takes place of the multitudes the entire EARTH IS REAPED!

 

Marilyn, The wheat harvest (RAPTURE) does not happen until Revelations 14: 14 ! In this verse, the Son of man is plainly written as the one doing the harvesting, sitting on a white cloud! Verse 16.........And the earth was reaped! The WRATH of GOD does not begin until Chapter 16! ALL are taken before the Wrath of God! But we WILL suffer tribulations and persecutions! It's as plain as day to me, and I hope it is visible to many others as well. We are to prepare our selves because of what is coming on the earth! FEW are those that find the narrow path, as in the days of NOAH...........

 

YBIC

 

Mike P