KML (25 July 2012)
"re: Doug Corley 21 July, 2012 Isaiah 46:10 If God is declaring the End from the Beginning , when was the beginning ?"

 
Hello Doves and Doug Corley
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2012/dougc721.htm

Hello Doug
Thank you for your post above. I have also been doing a study of this very same subject. I would like to share my findings with you and the doves.
This scripture verse the Lord gave me several years ago.I like yourselves believe that this very well could be the year of our departure. So lets take this year and hold to it as The Year. With this in mind I would like to present my study as to what MONTH and DAY the beginning for man was. When He was placed in the Garden, When Tribulation will begin, and when Tribulation will End, along with atonement, and Tabernacles. I began with these TWO events.
1. When the serpent came
2. When the flood came
Why ?  Because they are the catalists for the state of man. The whole world ( John 3:16) not just Israel.
According to The Bible and The Book of Jubilees it was the 2nd Month 17th day of the Month that these TWO events took place. Both were in fact the month of Mar Cheshvan.
The Fulfillment of Trumpets is at the End of Tribulation, when Christ comes in His glory.
Atonement is fulfilled during Millinum
Tabernacles is fulfilled during the eternal perfect state. The whole world mourns, and see Him at Trumpets, Israel is forgiven for their sin and rejection of Messiah. ( they accept Him ) All mankind living during the eternal perfect state Tabernacle with The Lord. for ever.

IN THE CASE OF ADAM AND EVE IN THE GARDEN
1. We know by scripture they were brought to and placed in the garden. They were not created IN the Garden.
2. According to The Book of Jubilees, they were created in the Land of Elda. Elda means ( God knows) its location was east of Eden. this is where they went after they sinned and left the Garden.
3.Adam was brought into the Garden after 40 days from his creation. Eve was brought into the Garden 80 days after Her creation. This pertains to her cleanness after child birth, be it male or female. Male 40 days, female 80 days. Remember Eden is Gods #1 holy place on earth.
4. Eve was formed from Adams' Rib (One week) after Adam was created.
5. After they had completed 7 years ( together) in the Garden [exactly 1-7] The serpent came on the 2nd Month 17th day of the Month.
to the very day. This gives us the date they went into the Garden also, 7 yrs earlier 2nd month 17 th day.
6. The 2nd Month was Mar Cheshvan, October in our gregorian calendar. The only Month whereby there are No feasts or festavals. This month is associated with the serpent, and water, research it for yourselves. Also called The empty month.
7. Using Mar Cheshvan the 2nd Month and the 17th day in our calendar is October 14, 2012 counting back in the calendar 80 days and One week we come to The (New moon of the Fourth month) in our calendar is June 19, 2012. This Is the Beginning of Man at his creation. Adam to the day, hour not known. Thus " ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

IN THE CASE OF NOAH AND THE FLOOD
1. Noah and all that were his and all the animals were in the Ark and God shut the door on the 2nd Month 17th day of the Month in the evening. perhaps this is a clue as to the time of day when Tribulation begins. The distruction of Damascus prophecy tells us [ by even tide, trouble; by morning it was not. 17th day of Mar Cheshvan.  October,14th 2012 in our gregorian calendar.
2. God is beginning again with the case of man on the same day that sin began for Adam when the serpent came, 2nd Month 17th day of the Month.

IN THE CASE OF DECLARING THE END FROM THE BEGINNING
1. If in fact this is The Year of the End (for) the Last 7 years of Tribulation, as were 7 years of Paradise in the Beginning in the Garden.
2. The count down began on June 19,2012 (fourth month New moon) for the 80 + 7 days bringing us to October 14, 2012( 2nd Month 17th day) as the Beginning of Tribulation. ( using God's calendar) and accounting it to our gregorian calendar.
3. Not using any jewish feasts, or any dates with the start of the church, and only taking God at his word in Isaiah 46:10
Remember God is addressing Israel in this passage, and it pertains to them, as does Tribulation.

Check out this link :
http://www.jewishtimes.com/index.php/jewishtimes/judaism_101/an_empty_month/

This mentions the Sages teach Cheshvan is reserved for the time of the Messiah. we know this is anti-christ at first, but the True Messiah will come at the end.
ISAIAH 46:10
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure.

I believe His counsel in this verse means:
His overall plan in TIME for the completion and consumation of the restoration of ALL things to come about.
The first Adam blew it; But Jesus the Second Adam will not. Mans week ( a day is as 1000 yrs) stands at the end of the 6th day. There is only 7 literal yrs left to go.
Jesus comes back and begins his rule and The Sabbath day starts, the 7th day (the 7th 1000 yr period) before the Restitution of All things come about.  Which is The eternal Perfect State, as IS God's counsel.

If we are in fact in the year of the departure of the church, and the ushering in of the Tribulation, the count down of the 80+7 days began on Friday July 20th, 2012 and will end October 14th, 2012, which is the beginning of Tribulation and the Last 7 yr period as was in the beginning with Adam and Eve in the garden.  We are in Year 5993 .
Israel is off in the counting of years and they know it. in 135 AD
We, the church can depart at any momment ! literally
I am counting the days, and my eyes are open and I am not asleep. therefore Jesus will not come to me as a thief as he says he comes in Revelation. Paul tells the church, you are not in darkness as [that day] shall overtake you as a thief.

There is an old saying, " keep it simple simon" I think it is; if we take what God said to Israel in Isaiah 46:10 literally.
Jeremiah 33:3
Call unto me and I will answer thee and show thee great and mighty things which thou knowest not.
Pray about this and see if you have a peace with it.
Matt 24,and 25 is for Israel and not the church.

Bitter- sweet Month
Please watch this video concerning  "Mar Cheshvan"  with Rabbi Chaim Richman  " The Temple Institute "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78EMJa8M_Es

Lets not forget that the Rabbi and all of Israel still have a vail over their eyes concerning Messiah.


The despensation of Grace is coming to a close, and the Last 7 yrs will begin .
Could it truly be This Year ?

I pray it is; as I know you all do as well.
God Bless you all
KML

TY Doug for your post.