Gerlinda (25 July 2012)
"John B - The Four Winds"


 

Dear John B.
 
I've had to wait to reply to your post concerning the Four Winds/Angels....so much to consider and check out.  Great description of God's Army.   I've read and reread it.  But  I'm not quite sure what to think about it including the 144,000.  You've presented a view I have never, ever heard before.  The 144,000 out of the 12 tribes of the House of Israel is clearly given so that is not the part that makes me really ponder what you say.  I think we've always been taught that this was telling that Israel would once again come to life after her death as a nation in 70AD and which was fulfilled in 1948.  Even the fact that they are raised but don't have the Spiritual Breath of God put into them right now was taught to mean that although Israel is back in it's own land, the people still do not have the breath of God within them.  They, as a whole, are still Spiritually dead.  It's likened to Jesus words when He said, "Let the Dead bury the Dead."  Israel is still existing without the very Light that led them out of Egypt.  You cleared up the fact that the Breath comes from the Four Winds.  It has been thought that refers to the 144,000 of the House of Israel who have been spread to the four corners of earth will have come home and ultimately have the Spirit of God put within them.
 
Would you please tell me how 144,000 can be thought to be the 200 million army.  I agee completely with you about the Lord's Army being an exceedingly great army that is "Super-natural".  No doubt that Joel is speaking of such an army.  When it speaks about the Euphrates drying up to make way for the army from the East, you don't see the army with heads like Lions and tails like snakes as demonic?  I question this because of many who tell of demonic creatures that look human but many so ugly, they've had a mask created to hide their true ugliness but they do have the long, reddish hair, which has been one of the attributes of the Nephillim....the bones of Giants of which many have been uncovered, show their long, reddish blonde hair.  We know that when Apollyon is released from his prison in Hell, he (their king) will be given 5 months to sting those on earth but they will not die even though they yearn for death. So, after 5 months, is that when Jesus Christ and His exceedingly great army comes to deal with them?   So, here is the way I see these groups.
 
The bones that come back to life are the 144,000 of the House of Israel but they are not this great army described to have teeth like lions but had faces that were like human.  I'll print it here and notice the likeness to what you described as the exceedingly great army of God.
 
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2012/johnb723.htm
 
Revelation 9:7  In appearance the locust were like horses arrayed for battle; on their heads were what looked like crowns of gold; their faces were like human faces, their hair like women's hair and their teeth like lions' teeth; they had scales like iron breastplates, and the noise of their wings was like the noise of many chariots with horses rushing into battle.  They have tails like scorpions and stings and their power of hurting men for five months lies in their tails.  They have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek he is called Apollyon.
 
Those are clearly a descriptions of the Fallen Angels and their off-spring. Somewhere in the Bible, it speaks of that they will see their children destroyed.  I believe it is in Isaiah.
 
If you can clear up this fact for me, I'd appreciate it.  Your ideas of God's Army do have solid evidence but as a separate group at the end.
 
Thanks for your interesting take on this John.
Gerlinda