EXCELLENT posts my friends in  Christ!  Very well thought out summations from the Word of God.

I have been very open since becoming a "dove" to people's assertions of the rapture.  I have hoped and considered many dates presented to us as well as the possibility we were/are in the 70th week of Daniel, the Tribulation.

But I was never fully convinced of the timelines.

I cannot wait for the HOLY SPIRIT of God to teach me and give me complete understanding of the meaning of numbers.  I know they are very significant.

For now, I hold on to the Word of God that I understand by  God's Light, Love, and Life.

Like you Bruce, I believe there are 2 raptures.  In fact, there may be 3 others after we leave.  Definitely 4.

1) those who are ready and watching. ( the 5 virgins).

2)  [ not necessarily in the following order]
       the 144,000 Jews -SERVANTS- who have the seal of God on their foreheads.  (Revelation 7:3 and 14:1).

3) the two witnesses after they die and resurrect 3 days later.  (Revelation 10:12)

4) the harvest of Revelation 14:15-16

July / August (AV)....looking really good for the rapture.  If not in the month of AV, I keep hearing from even secular sources, something HUGE is going to happen in the next 6 months !!

Come Lord Jesus.

Blessings to ALL!

Carol Garza