Jennie (17 Jan 2013)
"Solution on Gun Control"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2013/jennie117.htm
Hello Jennie:
This is kind of long, but please bear with me. There are a few things that I don't think that you've had time to
think through. Below are links to some articles that I think will help you to see what's behind the "get the crazies" tactic.
I have to disagree that anyone taking anti-depressants should not be allowed to own a gun. My mother-in-law took
anti-depressants for years, and I can tell you that she was a lot easier to get along with and a happier person
when she was taking them. Although she was a church going, Bible reading and believing, Christian lady, before she
started taking them, she was contentious and cranky a lot of the time, but she would have never hurt anyone.
I have a few relatives and in-laws that take them or have taken them in the past and it's not a problem for them
or a problem for anyone around them. They're decent, loving people. I certainly don't believe that everyone should
take these, but those that are helped by them shouldn't be punished for the actions of a few individuals.
I have another in-law who is bi-polar. He stopped taking his medication and had an "episode", plus I think that he
was abusing other drugs. He impersonated a police officer, and ended up in prison for two years. Come to find out,
he had done the same thing years earlier and spent time in prison for that offense too. Both times he did this, he
had stopped taking his medication. This person has displayed violent behavior toward his wife. He is the type of
person that shouldn't have a gun and it is already against the law for him to own one.
Not all mental problems cause violent behavior in people. Not all anti-psychotic and anti-depressant drugs cause
violent behavior. They can help or they can hurt. It depends on the person who takes them.
All criminals are not mentally ill and not all mentally ill people are criminals or dangerous. Not all criminals
do drugs and not all mentally ill people abuse drugs. The real problem is not guns, drugs or mental illness. I do
believe that drugs can be a path to criminal behavior and I do believe that drug abuse can lead to mental illness
and/or criminal behavior.
The problem is a spiritual problem. Some people are just wicked. By that, I mean influenced or possessed by
demons. The Bible says that in the last days there would be people who it would seem as though their consciences
had been seared over by a hot iron. In other words no conscience.
When the Sandy Hook shootings first happened, I heard that the shooter wasn't taking medication and I also heard
that he may have been into satanism. I also heard that his mother may have had plans to have him committed. I
haven't watched the news much lately, so I don't know if this is accurate or speculation on the part of the news
anchors.
I do agree that too many people are taking these drugs. Some of this is because of drug abusers and some of this
is the fault of doctors. I had a hysterectomy six years ago. It was done like a c-section. I was told that recovery time
was 6 to 8 weeks. A week after the surgery, I stopped taking the prescription pain pills because they were giving me
nightmares and making me depressed and irritable. I only took ibuprofen, after one week. I was still in a lot of pain at
the time of my 4 week check up. I complained about it, because I had expected to be feeling a lot better by then, but I wasn't.
The doctor gave me a prescription for something. Before I had it filled, I got online and researched it because I
had already told her that if it caused weight gain, that I would not take it (she had assured me that it wouldn't).
Not only did it cause weight gain, it was addictive and as it turned out, it was an anti-depressant. I didn't get
the prescription filled. When I went for the last check up, she asked how the medication was working and when I
told her that I hadn't had it filled, she clearly got agitated and insisted that I needed it. I just smiled and
said okay. I didn't tell her that I'd already trashed the prescription. When I saw my regular doctor, a month or
so after that, I found out that the 6-8 week recovery time only meant that you are not likely to rip open the
stitches, etc. and that it could actually take up to a year to actually make a full recovery.
Here is another example of doctors pushing drugs. A few years ago, my stepdaughter took one her children to the
pediatrician. He had been running fever, had a sore throat and felt horrible. The doctor checked him out, did lab
work and said that he had strep throat. Along with actual medication for his illness, she had decided by the way
he looked and acted (I guess he wasn't very talkative) that he was depressed and needed to be on anti-depressants.
My stepdaughter didn't put up with that nonsense. She didn't let that quack doctor talk her into something so
ridiculous and she found another doctor. Can you imagine putting a child on anti-depressants for strep throat?
I don't know if you've ever heard of this, but there are doctors known as "script doctors". A drug abuser will go
from one psychiatrist to the next until they find one that will diagnose them will some mental illness and put them
on some type of drug. When it doesn't work or not as well as the patient had hoped, then the doctor will increase
the dosage or give them something else to take. As long as the doctor treats the symptoms only, and not the root
cause, that doctor has a patient for a long time. The doctors don't even try to treat any underlying reasons for
the problem (if there really was one to start with). One person I know would go to a psychiatrist and the doctor
would ask "How are you? Is that medication working for you? Do you need a refill?" That was the treatment. There
was no type of counseling at all. This person really does have a mental illness, but also abused prescription
drugs. The doctor pretty much gave her all the drugs that she wanted, at first. Then when he had her really
"messed up" he cut her back at first, then he cut her off and refused to treat her because at that point he could
say that she had a drug problem and that he didn't treat drug problems. He is the same doctor that had diagnosed
this person as being bi-polar to start with. The doctor didn't help her, he made her problem much, much worse. This
person is more likely to hurt herself than anyone around her.
The whole mental illness thing and gun control is just another way to convince people to give up their rights. It
sounds good when you first hear about it, but when you really think about what that could mean, it doesn't sound
good at all.
First, how does the doctor determine whether or not a person is mentally ill and dangerous and should have their
firearm confiscated? Right now, it might be the worst cases. Next, it will be anyone with a mental illness,
because even though they've lived a peaceful life with no apparent problems for 50 years, they've taken
anti-depressants, so they might kill someone, better get their guns, too. They'll take the weapons of ex-military
people, because they might have post traumatic stress syndrome, that's a mental illness. Then there's the people
who live with chronic pain and have to take prescription pain pills on a regular basis. Well, those pain pills
might make someone cranky and that's a mental illness and they might shoot someone. If you go to Church, you must
be mentally ill and especially if you own a Bible. Only mentally ill people read the Bible.
The news was on as I was typing part of this and I heard that they are planning to have doctors ask their patients
if they own guns. You don't have to answer the question, but if you refuse to answer, don't you think that it will be
reported that you refused to answer? Isn't that like saying yes? If you own a gun you might be mentally ill? This is
an intimidation tactic. I bet that they ask school children if their parents own guns. Yep, that will probably be next unless
it is already happeneing.
The story, before the one above, was about a woman that has been arrested for beating her 5 month old infant daughter to death.
I read an article a while back. It was about a group of psychiatrists that wanted to recommend that pedophiles
were not really mentally ill and that it was okay, maybe even healthy for children to have sex with adults as long
as the child consented. Then I read an article about a year ago, about a group of psychiatrists who want to classify
human emotions has mental illnesses. So, if you're happy, get angry or basically display any emotions, it is
mental illness. This is the kind of Trash who is deciding who is and isn't mentally ill. Scarey, isn't it?
Here is one article, there were many more. Just do a search on "human emotions are a mental illness".
Normal personality traits and emotions like grieving soon to be classified as 'mental illness'
Friday, February 17, 2012 by: Jonathan Benson, staff writer
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034997_mental_illness_grieving_psychiatry.html#ixzz2II4E9pm4
Here's another article you should read. I did a search on "pedophilia normalization by psychiatrists". This isn't the same
article that I read a while back, but is basically the same.
Normalization of Pedophilia Urged by Psychiatrists
Posted by Tina Sullivan on July 25, 2012 at 5:25pm
Child advocate Dr. Judith Reisman, a visiting professor at Liberty University’s School of Law, said the conference
is part of a strategy to condition people into accepting pedophiles.
“The first thing they do is to get the public to divest from thinking of what the offender does criminally, to
thinking of the offender’s emotional state, to think of him as thinking of his emotional state, [and] to empathize
and sympathize,” Reisman said. “You don’t change the nation in one fell swoop; you have to change it by
conditioning. The aim is to get them [pedophiles] out of prison.”
http://theperiledsea.ning.com/profiles/blogs/normalization-of-pedophilia-urged-by-psychiatrists?xg_source=msg_mes_network
The bottom line is, that gun confiscation has been in the plans for years. They will pass one law after another, or
should I say issue executive orders, until everyone is disqualified from owning a firearm. I guess that's everyone
except the real criminals and nut cases. They will still be able to buy them. They need only ask the drug cartels
where they got theirs. Who knows, if you get shot by a criminal, it could be with your own gun; the one that was
confiscated from you, because you smiled at someone in the grocery store (showing emotion) or maybe because you had
a little bumper sticker on the back of your car that has a cross and 2 fish on it.
The Gaby Giffords shooter, the movie theater shooter, and the Sandy Hook shooter in my opinion were possessed.
Satan works on people to get these things accomplished. I bet these people heard voices that told them to do these
things. Something else occurred to me. These people might already have the chip? Maybe the chip told them to do it.
Have you read these articles?
Neil Lipken (14 Jan 2013)Did you read about this? I wouldn't be surprised at all if this gets passed. The proposal has already been made.
"An Austrian woman tells the truth about what happened in Austria-------a warning to America today!"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2013/neill114.htm
Nando (16 Jan 2013)
"A testimony of Hitler’s taking of Austria, is Obama doing the same? My own experience with the same!"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2013/nando116.htm
"No Term Limit For President?"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2013/kimberly111-1.htm
Now they can give you medicine that you may not need.
Under-the-skin microchip delivers doses of medicine
Now scientists say they have devised a new way to give patients their medicine: through a fingertip-size microchip
embedded in the body that doctors can control remotely via a wireless connection.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/16/health/la-he-microchip-medicine-20120217
I watched a program on NRB network called "War of the Worldviews". (This is not the same as the book
written by Deepak Chopra.) The name of the video is "Hell's Bells". It was a real eye opener on the NWO (OWN)
agenda. For many years they've been hard at work corrupting people with drugs, sex, music, etc. and conditioning
them to give up rights and allow the PTB to have total control.
If you are interested in purchasing the video, you can find it here:
http://theapologeticsgroup.com/product-category/pop-culture/
Here is a link to an article on "Hell's Bells". Click on the link. When the page comes up, click on "Pop Culture". I
haven't actually read the article. I watched the video on TV.
http://theapologeticsgroup.com/articles/
This is an InfoWars video and appears to be true. I watched for over 5 minutes, but will have to watch the rest later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyfkQkchlu4
Jennie, the NWO has an agenda and eventually they'll see it through and they will accomplish this by deceiving people into
thinking it is the right thing to do (at first, then it will get ugly). Hope you can see the big picture.
A crazy person doesn't have to have a gun to kill a lot of people at one time. Terrorists do it all the time without guns.
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Kimberly