To Mathman and all Doves,      After reading Mathman's post on Dec 29th, "New Year's Rapture??", I discovered a couple other related calculations, both pointing to Jan 20 2013. As far as I'm concerned, the Oct 29,2008 -- Sept 23,2015 timeline is still alive and well due to the shortening of the Great Tribulation in Matt.25:5. Consider these counts: (1) Oct 29,2008+84 days=Jan 20,2009(Obama's initial inauguration) (2) Jan 20,2009+2520 days(or 7 prophetic years, 7x360 days)=Dec 14,2015(the last day of Hanukkah 2015) and (3) Sept 22/23,2015+84 days=Dec 14,2015. Just as counting back 84 days from Dec 14,2015 brings us to the start of Yom Kippur 2015, counting back 84 days from Jan 20,2013 brings us to the start of Daniel's 70th Week(or last 2520 days before Christ's Return to the Earth. This may indeed mark Jan 20,2013 as an ominous date. Secondly, check out this very interesting article that also points to the Jan 20,2013 inauguration date. It is written by Nathan Leal of "The Watchman's Cry" ministries entitled, "An Emergency Warning from Nathan Leal Mystery Babylon at the Gate-- America is Falling!" If the events of Jeremiah39 are going to happen to America, then the 11 years, 4 months, and 9 days of Jer39:2 brings us to Jan 20,2013, counting forward from the benchmark of the Sept 11th attacks. Sept 11,2001+11 years=Sept 11,2012. Sept11,2012+4 months=Jan 11,2013. Jan 11,2013+9 days=Jan 20 2013!                  God Bless---ybiC-Benny