Gino (19 Feb 2023)
"judgment of the sheep nations and the goat nations?"


(There are a few different judgments, for clearly different and distinct purposes.

First is the judgment of sin upon the cross, and all who believe in Jesus have had their sins judged there, and washed by his blood.

Then for those saved, washed in his blood, will be the judgment seat of Christ.

There could not be the judgment seat of Christ, without first the judgment of the cross.

Because, then, all of us would be condemned before Jesus, to the eternal lake of fire.

So, no, first our sins our judged at the cross, and only then can our service be judged at the judgment seat of Christ.

At the judgment seat of Christ, there are either rewards, or lack of rewards, for our service to him, but not condemnation.

After the thousand year kingdom will be the great white throne, where those not saved, will be judged for their works.

But, since they didn’t have their sins judged at the cross, they will still be in their sins, and not written in the book of life.

These will then, sadly, go to the eternal lake of fire.)

 

(However, there still needs to be yet another judgment, the judgment of the nations.

This is not to be a judgment of individuals, to determine their eternal destination.

That is already done, either at the cross, or later, after the kingdom, at the great white throne judgment.

No, the nations, as nations, have to be judged.

This world has been divided into nations, ruled by kings, or other king-like leaders.

There have been some nations that were established far more righteously than the others.

There have also been some nations that have been far more wicked than the others.

Some nations attacked, looted, and all but destroyed other nations.

But the nation that the LORD took out of Egypt, and established for himself, is Israel.

So, all the other nations are considered in light of the LORD’s nation, Israel.

They still, as nations, need to be judged on how they treated Israel.

The nazis may have lost the war, but have they, as a nation, been judged, yet, on how they treated Israel?

These things cannot be swept under the rug, and they must be dealt with at the national level.

That is why Jesus will have the judgment of the nations, at the beginning of the kingdom.

And they will be judged by how they treated Israel, not only like the holocaust, but especially during the time of Jacob’s trouble:)

 

Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

  32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

 

(It says that Jesus gathers all nations, not peoples, or all individuals, as this is not the judgment of individuals.

Then he separates the nations into two groups: sheep nations and goat nations.)

 

  33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

 

(Then he addresses the sheep nations, recounting what they did for his brethren according to the flesh, the children of Israel.

This particularly addresses what happened during the tribulation; how did they treat the Jews, and the other tribes of Israel?

Did they hide them from antichrist, and his dark minions? Did they feed the Jews who didn’t have the mark?

How did they treat those Jews who unable buy or sell, that were kicked out into the street, or imprisoned?)

 

  34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

  35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

  36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

  37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

  38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

  39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

  40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

 

(The King, Jesus, the descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Judah, of the house and lineage of David answered them.

Jesus considered how they treated his brethren, according to the flesh, as directly related to how those nations treated him.)

 

(But then Jesus addresses the goat nations:)

 

  41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

  42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

  43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

  44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

  45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

  46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

 

(But don’t lines 41 & 46 sound like individual eternal judgment?

But if line 46 is about eternal judgment, then eternal life would be based on works, not faith through grace, nor the blood of Jesus.

It is not saying that individuals inheriting eternal life, did so by doing righteous works, no!

But, as seen above, the righteous nations are blessed, in the kingdom, and beyond, for how that nation treated the Jews.

So then, what about the other nationss, whom it says go into everlasting punishment?)

 

(It has always been for Israel that the LORD has destroyed nations that were wicked:)

 

Joshua 23:3 And ye have seen all that the LORD your God hath done unto all these nations because of you; for the LORD your God is he that hath fought for you.

 

Zephaniah 3:6 I have cut off the nations: their towers are desolate; I made their streets waste, that none passeth by: their cities are destroyed, so that there is no man, that there is none inhabitant.

  8b  for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger:

 

(Ariel is another name for Jerusalem, and the nations that fight against her will be gone, forever:)

 

Isaiah 29:7 And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel, even all that fight against her 

and her munition, and that distress her, shall be as a dream of a night vision.

 

Zechariah 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

 

(None of those nations will be able to stand against Jesus’ judgement:)

 

Jeremiah 10:10 But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.

 

(Some nations he will make a full end of:)

 

Jeremiah 30:11b  though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet will I not make a full end of thee:

 

Isaiah 34:2 For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.

 

Isaiah 60:12 For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.

 

(He will cause nations to perish forever:)

 

Numbers 24:20b Amalek was the first of the nations; but his latter end shall be that he perish for ever.

 

(How will Jesus do this?)

 

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

  46a And these shall go away into everlasting punishment:

 

(Perhaps it could be like when Dathan and Abiram were swallowed up alive into the pit:)

 

Numbers 16:30 But if the LORD make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the LORD.

  31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them:

  32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods.

  33 They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.

 

(It may not necessarily be that way, but it could be, else why, some 400 years later, would David pen words like this?)

 

Psalms 55:15 Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell: for wickedness is in their dwellings, and among them.

 

(David also penned that the LORD would turn nations into hell:)

 

Psalms 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

 

(So, either Jesus has them swallowed up alive into hell, or he slays them, and their souls go down to hell, and their bodies buried.

Either way, after the thousand years they will be resurrected to face the great white throne judgment.)

 

(It is good to remember that scripture’s view of the nations has always been with Israel in perspective:)

 

Deuteronomy 32:8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.

 

(There is still yet one more aspect of this judgment upon the nations.

And that is for the nations, where the entire nation did not mistreat the Jews, but where there were some there who did.

Or that nation turned a blind eye to the persecution, or did not help the Jews.

There are some nations where this may very well be true.

e.g., if these happen in our days, now, then Egypt would be an example of this.

There are a number of evil people there, who are part of, or support, the Muslim Brotherhood, and other violent antisemitic and anti-Israel groups.

However, the nation had made a peace treaty with Israel – so what happens in that case?

It would appear that the nation will be blessed according to the treatment of the Jews, particularly during the tribulation.

To illustrate this, the nations, in the kingdom, are blessed or not, in relation to their keeping the feast of tabernacles:)

 

Zechariah 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

  17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

  18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

  19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

 

(Even in the kingdom, this scripture still stands:)

 

Genesis 12: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

 

(There is a difference between entire nations destroyed at this time, and nations that survive, and are judged during the kingdom.

This is described to Daniel:)

 

Daniel 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

  12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

  17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

  23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

  24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

  26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

 

(So, as seen there, the kingdom of the beast, which is like an empire, is totally destroyed.

Which, with those ten kings, probably encompasses at least ten nations, and all of them are totally destroyed as part of that kingdom.

Also seen is that there are three other kingdoms, which may also be like empires, where there may be multiple nations, as well.

The nations of those three empires, are certainly not the best of nations, but they are allowed to survive into the kingdom.

During the kingdom, they will yet be blessed, or not, based on their relationship with the Jews, and of course with Jesus.)

 

 

 

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