John B (26 Feb 2017)
"As Paul Harvey would say......"And now you know the rest of the story".....and what a story it is"


I am guessing that the majority of you have been “glued to the set” so to speak concerning the assorted aspects of the Revelation 12 sign that will appear in the heavens this am I. I have written several posts to Doves on the Revelation 12 topic but during that time frame I did not have a clear / complete discernment / picture as to the total significance of what that “great sign” represented. At this point after delving deeper into God's word, I believe I do.

I now can appreciate why God referred to this as...... a great sign.

Back in December I brought forth that Revelation 12 was announcing not one but two different births. One birth enclosed and described in verses 1 and 2 and a second birth enclosed and described in verses 3-5 and that each birth had their own corresponding signs.

The verses 3-5 birth (connected to the Red Dragon sign) was the birth of the man child. In prior decades / years the term manchild was thought to mean Jesus and His “catching up” resurrection to God and the throne. But closer research of the term manchild has revealed that the term means Jesus' seed or His church …...and the church's catching away or rapture.

So this birth of the manchild is the rapture of the church....but when?

In Isaiah 66:7 we learn that this manchild is born before “she” was in labor and that there were no labor pains.

So..... we have two separate birthings by the same woman, one with loud and severe labor pains and one sometime sooner with no labor or labor pains. Does this make any sense? Yes, does not the word say we as Christians were grafted into the vine or family of God's chosen people the Jews.

So.... this Revelation 12 woman who represents this collective vine of Jews and Gentiles gives birth twice, the first birth is quiet with no labor or labor pains. This would be very unexpected to have a birth without labor or labor pains to announce said birth. But then, isn't that exactly what we see in the rapture, a sudden unexpected event happening …..... in the twinkling of an eye?

This “rapture birth” obviously happens before the other birth in September which is accompanied by great labor when might this no pain “rapture birth” happen....has God given us any clues?? Yes, and it is “pictured” to happen in late spring or early summer.

I say this because both Isaiah 18 and the The Song of Solomon both indicate a spring or early summer rapture. Both of those areas of scripture deal with the rapture and they “key in” on one particular object or event......grapes. Both of these areas of scripture indicate a rapture happening when grapes are in a particular condition.

Isaiah 18, I believe states “the rapture timing” this way.....”and the sour grape is ripening in the flower”....

The Song of Solomon, I believe, states “the rapture timing” this way.....”and the vines with the tender grapes give a good smell”....

Also who can discount Pentecost as being the time frame for the I stated last week....

If I was a betting man I would say the God would orchestrate the rapture to happen this year during the Feast of Pentecost in the first part of June. That way He would have “bookends”. The first Pentecost to start the church and the church age........ and this June's (maybe) last Pentecost to close out the Church age.

Not only that, but lets look at this scenario from a different angle. If the the start of the church was by the Holy Spirit at Pentecost couldn't that also be looked upon as the insemination / conception of that church (that body of Christ) at that time..... by the Holy Spirit?......... and then a gestation period of 1984 years with the birth happening this coming Pentecost?

The conception of Jesus was by the Holy Spirit in Mary and He was born. Was not the church, the body of Christ also conceived by the Holy Spirit at Pentecost? And could it very possibly be born this Pentecost season to complete......the full body of Christ.....Jesus and His church....His complete body being joined together ….. so to speak?

Is the first part of June the appropriate time when the green grape is just forming in the flower? Sounds plausible to me.

Now on to as Paul Harvey would say is.........the rest of the story.....and that is...... Who gets born at the other birth in September that is accompanied by great labor and great labor pains? Let's let scripture answer that question by going to Micah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Romans, Revelation and many others for the answer that should wow you.

So again, the question is..... who gets born in September under what would appear to be very adverse conditions for Israel, the woman, who is crying out in pain. Is she, Israel then under attack? If the rapture happens in June and the church is not here to physically and spiritually protect and intervene for her, she may very well be under attack by Satan and the world at large who hate her. Would not our rapture departure present the perfect opportunity to eradicate her once and for all. Would she then not cry out in pain (Revelation 12:2)? Would she then not cry out to her God, the God of the old testament for help as she is under attack? Remember, there are literally 200,000 or more missiles in place awaiting the launch command to destroy Israel by her surrounding enemies. Will God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as the “one triune God” intervene?

Let's see if scripture can reveal what happens......

In Deuteronomy 32:36 we see that the Lord will first judge his people (allows the attack on them) and then He will have compassion on them.....but only when....He sees that their power is gone. He then in verses 37-42 gives the Jews a well deserved chewing out as a father would do to a son who ignored his fatherly advice and got in much trouble. Then God states His own personal awesome resume and then the vengeance He is going to take on His, Israel's, and the Gentiles (raptured church's) enemies.

In verse 43 He “collectively” refers to what I believe is the already raptured church (O Gentiles) and His people the Jews when He makes this awesome statement in verse 43 below.

(Keep in mind that this attack on Israel appears to happen a couple weeks prior to the great sign in the heavens on September 23 and that the church as per the second manchild sign should already have been “caught away” in late spring)

Verse 43

Rejoice, O Gentiles, with His people;

For He will avenge the blood of His servants,

And render vengeance to His adversaries;

He will provide atonement for His land and His people.

This is an extremely powerful verse where God (the Father and Jesus) are I believe saying.....Rejoice O Raptured church along with my chosen people the Jews for I am here now as I promised...... here to avenge the blood of all my servants that have died over all the centuries.....and here to render vengeance to all of My adversaries.....and I am here to will provide atonement (satisfaction for wrongdoing or injury) for My land and my people. Wow! What a powerful verse..... and as you will see through many scripture verses that's exactly what He does.

The whole “Israel under siege scenario” will I believe happen this year in late August or early September and is also described in Zechariah 14 where we find Israel under attack and all nations gathered against Jerusalem. The city taken, the houses rifled, the women ravished and half of the city under captivity. And as we learned in Deuteronomy 32 when all of Israel's defense forces have been vanquished and all seems lost......verse 3, The Lord arrives and fights against those nations.

God then (in Zechariah 14) does a most awesome thing, He steps His feet upon the Mount of Olives and it splits in two from east to west and He creates (in God's terms) a very large valley many many miles long and wide with half of that mountain moving to the north and half moving to the south. This will be a place of refuge for the Israelis who are under attack. And.... this huge valley is the “wilderness” referred to in Revelation 12:6 where the woman Israel is taken to be fed and protected for 1260 days.

Then..... this huge God protected valley that God has just created is “stocked” if you will with not only the war torn escaping Israelis but also with hundreds of millions of more Jews. What!!!! How is this possible, there are only 12 million Jews alive on earth ???

Well, these hundreds of millions of Jews are they who are birthed by the woman in Revelation 12 in verses 1 and 2 under the great sign for the Jews on September 23rd.

If this is true, who are these hundreds of millions of Jews to be born on the great Revelation 12 sign date and where do they come from?

Ezekiel in chapter 37 answers that question and describes these Jews as “the whole house of Israel”. Meaning, all the dead (and now to be resurrected) Jews from the total lineage of Jacob that were born and have lived over all the centuries from the time of Jacob until the present time.

Not my words folks....they are God's in Ezekiel 37 and elsewhere

We also find this Jewish story line referred to in Micah 5:3-4 where we see that God had gave the Jews up..... for a period of time. Gave them up until when? Two answers to that question.....

Micah 5:3....”until the time that she who is in labor (the Revelation 12 woman) has given birth” or, as is stated in Romans 11:25......given them up, ”until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in”. Meaning that this rebirth of the Jewish race on September 23rd could not happen until after the “catching up” or rapture of the church had first taken place.

And then we see this actual birth yet again also in Micah verse 3 where it states ......”then the remnant of His brethren shall return to the children of Israel” Meaning that those hundreds of millions of Jews, God's brethren, will return to those Jews who are alive (children of Israel) when this all happens.

There are other scripture verses that state that God will also gather up the living Jews from around the world and also take them to this place of safety....His whole flock will be there.

In the next verse of Micah it states that....”He shall stand and feed His flock”

Stand...meaning He will personally be there.

His flock.....meaning the combining of the alive Jews from all over the world and the newly resurrected Jews as per Ezekiel 37 (the two sticks) and other scriptures that discuss this “combining process”.

Feed His flock ….meaning as described in Revelation 12:6 that God would provide a place of safety in the wilderness where He would protect and feed His total Jewish flock for 1260 days.

It appears that this valley, this demilitarized zone that the Lord will create will extend from Jerusalem (half of Jerusalem) west for many many miles and will be large enough to accommodate large numbers of people. There is a reason why I am not saying that it will accommodate the hundreds of millions of people as I described above because yes they will be resurrected but all of them will not have to be fed. What do I mean?

The bible says in Ezekiel 37 that after all these hundreds of millions of Jews are resurrected and taken to this demilitarized zone.... this huge valley of safety that God will have just created.... that they all won't be alive or will be living there. What!!?

Scripture indicates that...... this huge Revelation 12 birth or resurrection takes place. Then, these people are taken to the safety of this new protected valley...... then, out of this huge rebirth / resurrection a selection takes place. As per Revelation 7 and 14 the first fruits of this Jewish birthing are chosen by God to be the personal entourage for Jesus. They are as per Revelation..... twelve thousand people from all of the 12 tribes of Israel totaling 144,000.

We also learn in Ezekiel 37 that hundreds of millions from this huge resurrection are re-birthed with bodies but are put in a position of suspended animation with no life breath in Spirit of God blown into them...... until a time later that God chooses. Ezekiel 37:7, Ezekiel 37:14. Why???

The why is because God uses 200 million of these re-birthed Jews with His Spirit blown into them as His end times exceedingly great army as we see in Ezek.37:10. When the time is right sometime during this 1260 day period when the Jews are protected and fed in this newly created valley God is going to blow life and His own Spirit into these re-birthed (suspended in animation like people) and then the wrath of God will be released upon the whole earth. At that time as is described in Revelation 9 the four angels that were stationed at the great river Euphrates will release the four winds to blow (as is spoken of in Ezekiel 37:9 and Revelation 7:1) allowing life through the Spirit of God to be blown into these hundreds of millions of resurrected Jews from the whole house of Israel (Jacob).

We then see in Revelation 9 that this exceedingly great army of Ezekiel 37 is numbered at 200 million people and they are tasked by God to do His biding and administer His wrath. And that wrath is to kill one third of the residents of the earth while riding fire breathing horses that can also fly. The horrific world wide ride of this exceedingly great army is described not only in Revelation 9 but also in Joel 2 and many many other areas of scripture. The world wide destruction of this ride, the details of this ride as listed in scripture and the world wide fear factor is off the charts horrifying. It will make the worst Hollywood thrillers seem tame.

When this ride is over and this army has killed over two billion enemies of God and Israel it will be safe for the Jews to come out of their protected valley. Seemingly obvious is that this will be 1260 days after the September birthing date.

Remember only half of Jerusalem was taken in what was described in Zech.14 and it appears that the protected valley or demilitarized zone physically starts there in Jerusalem so I see no reason why during the 1260 days that the Jews are being protected in that demilitarized zone that they couldn't work on rebuilding their holy temple.

When the Jews emerge after 1260 days I believe that their enemies (and you know who they are) will have been violently (as scripture indicates) removed from the earth by God's army. Now, at that point, the Jews will have all the lands in the Middle East that God's original land contract had promised them. This much greater land mass will accommodate the hundreds of millions of re-birthed Jews that formed God's army and the rest of the gathered Jews who were protected. God says in Ezekiel 37 that He will combine these two groups and they shall not defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions and that He will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and He will cleanse them. They shall be His people and He their God with the resurrected / re-birthed David as their king but God as their Shepard.

Also out of this Jewish re-birthing in September the two witnesses will arrive to start their 1260 day ministry.

Also before I forget..... the constellation Virgo where the great Revelation 12 sign appears normally only has 9 stars but for this great sign God moved 3 wandering stars or what we call planets into the mix so that the total would be 12 stars at the head of Virgo. So, what again is to be birthed during that great September sign? The 12 tribes of Israel from start to finish......what amazing choreography by God with this star alignment to reflect who this sign was referred to.

For 1260 days or the first half of the tribulation period …... the Jews are in a protected environment and the two witnesses who are also divinely protected will be preaching the gospel to the world. Also the antichrist and the false prophet will arrive and start their evil ministries so to speak.

Also remember this......during those first 1260 days or the first half of the 7 year tribulation period or during this same 1260 day ministry of the two witnesses...... God through His army kills one third of the planet.......yet after the remaining people, 4 billion of them had witnessed that death and destruction by God's army, scripture says........that these 4 billion people would not, are they slow learners!!!

Revelation 9:20-21 states it this way.....

They would not repent of the work of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts”.

Now that to me is a tough, heart hardened, deceived and demonic Ephesian 6:12 crowd. The two witnesses sure will have an uphill task of trying to redeem these 4 billion people during their 1260 day ministry. These people though will never be able to say that God didn't go the extra mile in an effort to save them.

The bible indicates that the antichrist and I presume the false prophet rise to power right after the rapture of the church. My discernment of scripture indicates that the antichrist will arrive on the world stage in a time of confusion and chaos as a result of the rapture. This person / beast will seem to have all the answers as to what just happened to millions of people who disappeared, even explaining away why Jesus's face as “The Sun of Righteousness” was seen in the heavens above...... at that time.

Not only will he the antichrist have those answers, he will also have a game plan for a one world government, a one world religion and a one world monetary system that will re-organize and calm the troubled world. As per scripture he will also throw in all sorts of lying signs and military like wonders and shazam.....we have what is stated in Revelation 13.....”All the world then marveled and followed the beast. So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?

It appears to me that this beast spends 1260 days, 42 months, 3.5 years or half of the full 7 year tribulation period befriending and deceiving the world and consolidating his power structure..... all that time speaking great things and blasphemies. He even has the Jews thinking he is someone special....their Messiah maybe. But after 42 months or again 1260 days of this “con job” he changes from Mr. Nice Guy to the satanic / demonic filled beast that he really is.

Now as per scripture, at this half way point in the 7 years, he changes radically. He then opens his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme God's name, God's tabernacle, and all those who live in heaven. Basically what this is saying is that this beast, this antichrist, will declare himself to be the one true God of the universe and that he and his kingdom reside here on earth. He then declares an end to any sacrifices and offerings worldwide being offered to any god other than him. And to cease these offerings under the penalty of death. This “I am the one true god declaration” will I believe cause quite the blow-back from the major religions of the world. To prove that he is what he says.........he kills the two witnesses that no one to this point in 1260 days could harm. This will prove to the then “witness weary world” that he is who he claimed he is. He then will start his terrible reign of power and terror for the last 3.5 years of the tribulation period......I believe then to be called the great tribulation period or the last 42 months of the 7 year period.

Revelation describes the literal hell on earth that Satan, the antichrist, the false prophet, and all of Satan's fallen angels and demonic minions do to terrorize and kill most of those 4 billion people......... who would not repent. There is a verse in Isaiah 13 that states that.... God will make a mortal more rare than fine gold.

There is obviously way more to the total story line than this but I believe I hit the high points so to speak ….......and for sure clued the Doves into what I believe happens this September and who it is that gets re-birthed during the period of the Revelation 12 sign.

There are way more areas of scripture that attest to the rebirth and protection provided to the whole house of Israel that I did not list in this post. One such area that I highly recommend you reading is Jeremiah 30, the whole chapter. It also describes Israel in fear, the rebirth of the whole house of Israel, the rebirth day, Jacob's trouble but being saved out of it, God protecting Israel, the return of Jacob, God's feeling, His wrath on Israel’s enemies, God's re-shepherding His flock …..on and on.

Doves I hope this post gives you hope and excitement as to what appears to be in store for you in the coming months and what is in store for Israel and the Jews as well. It appears to me that both parties...... the Gentile Church and God's chosen people the Jews will both be taken to areas of protection and nourishment as the wrath of the Father and the Son sweep over the earth ebbing and flowing for seven years.

Blessings Doves..........John B

PS...Sorry this is a little long but it took this much just to hit the high points. There is much greater detail in His Word about all these topics.....just dive in and you will be as amazed as I was.