John B (19 Feb 2017)
"RE: Gino and also the Dove community"


Gino and also the Dove community,

Gino, as per your post last week....http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2017/gino212-3.htm

I would like to thank you for having the courage and fortitude to express agreement not only with me but most importantly with God's Word. Through your reply to me and your personal testimony.........you also have borne witness to the accuracy and literal interpretation of God's Word and His creation. That's the good news.

The bad news is...... that by your doing so, you have opened yourself up (as I have) to extreme ridicule and sarcasm. Regardless of that, I consider these personal attacks a small price to pay for the privilege of being in accord with God and then authenticating what He has shared with us concerning the structure of the earth and the heavenly bodies that surround it.

Gino, you shared that you are a chemical engineer. With that training along with your own personal skills it appears from your testimony that you were led to greater and greater achievements throughout your career. This would obviously put you in a position of great respect among your family and peers and would give you a feeling of pride.....pride in all of your hard work and the accomplishments that that work created. And I agree...and commend you.

So...... to address those peers and risk all that respect and prestige that you have amassed by agreeing with God and not man concerning a very controversial topic (flat earth), to me is..... over the top, God's got a crown waiting for you......wonderful. That said, welcome to the club, it's not very crowded yet....... but we're working on that, trying to DE-program one soul at a time. When Satan controls all the high ground it's hard to convince people that what they learned throughout their lives in reference to our earth and it's surroundings was and is blatantly (and biblically)...... false.

Gino, I would also like to share a non-biblical secular quote with you that seems very applicable.

The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” -George Orwell

 

And this is what I believe God has to say on the subject of suppressing the truth. In this case scientific truth about our earth.... from Romans 1

Romans 1:18-22 (highlighting mine)

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who “suppress the truth” in unrighteousness,

19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.

20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes “are clearly seen”, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,

 

Here in Romans 1, God is clearly addressing His creation and the attributes of that creation. And as He states, those attributes......”should be clearly seen”.

I can look up in the sky and clearly see that the moon is not 250,000 miles away.

I can look up in the sky and clearly see that the sun is not 93,000,000 miles away. Only fools (as scripture indicates) would agree with the Satanic Ephesians 6:12 crowd and say that they were.

I could go on and on with hundreds of reasons were our own senses tell us the earth resides on a flat plane but the Satanic indoctrination has gone so deep that people completely discount what they see with their own eyes. How sad is that!!!!

Like I said before Gino.....welcome to the club and thanks for having my back. I’ll catch up with you some day and shake your hand. In the mean time, put on the full armor of God described in the scriptures..... I suspect you may need it now that you have struck an accord with God and poked your finger in Satan’s ugly lying puss.

 

Now to address Gino and the Doves community,

 

For several weeks now on 5 Doves I have shared my posts and articles with you concerning God's creation of earth and the heavens and His description of that creation as stated in the bible. And I also discussed the opposing view brought forth by mankind as to the functions and characteristics of earth and it's surroundings. Those two viewpoints are as far apart as day is night. I believe at some point you will need to choose one of these story lines.......God's or man's (Satan's) ….which will it be?

As Gino described his background last week, let me describe mine....

I am a retired electrical engineer who worked for a large eastern US utility. I could list my 40 year career of accomplishments and responsibilities in an attempt to convince people I think rationally and that I made a long career of proving things to be correct or incorrect but most non-technical people would probably find that long list of details boring.

I will say that the operating procedures, methods, testing and work that I did had to be exactly correct. Lives of fellow workers were always at stake as was the power grid itself. One can make mistakes in almost all job fields and get a second chance, when you work as we did with high voltage in transmission substations and generating facilities a mistake almost always meant a brush with death. So proving things to be correct or incorrect was literally life sustaining and mandatory.

I say all of this in an attempt to indicate that I made a career out of of proving things to be correct or incorrect whichever was applicable at the time. And that it was no exaggeration that lives were daily held in the balance......as I believe is the case that I bring before you in this post.....lives are at stake.

So ….when I was presented with some wacko theory that the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the earth, the “incorrectness” of that statement seemed evident and it should be easy to prove that these “flat earthers” were misguided fools. The first thing I had to do was read up on and thoroughly research this flat earth theory to see why anyone would even waste their time on what appeared to be basic science that we all learned in second grade.

Well, the research began and it was like opening up the biggest can of worms you could ever imagine. The more I read, the more videos I watched, the greater the anxiety factor rose. Anxiety in that it appeared that these “flat earthers” were not wacko's after all but appeared to be exactly correct. (The same extreme anxiety I felt after being a dyed in the wool Catholic for decades and leaving “that cult” after doing extensive research)

I next turned to the bible for “creation descriptions”...... where I should have gone to start with. I say this because I have been a bible prophecy addict for over twenty years and it's the accuracy of the fulfillment of this prophecy that authenticates the bible to be accurate and true.

There in God's Word I found a treasure trove of verses that completely authenticated the reality of what the “flat earthers” were proclaiming. That we live on a flat plane covered by a firmament with the sun, moon and whatever stars really are embedded in this firmament.

Now picture a very large clear glass bowl, now invert the bowl on your “flat” kitchen counter. We earthlings live on that flat plane under the clear bowl like structure God calls His firmament. And on the outside perimeter of that glass bowl where it meets this flat plane for 360 degrees is Antarctica.... all the way around the bowl...like 80,000 miles around.

The firmament is a clear substance and may be solid hydrogen that is of an unknown thickness....... possibly miles thick.

Yes, I know what you are thinking right now. What about the International Space Station, the space probes, the thousands of satellites, the GPS system, the satellite phone system, the pictures from space, the moon landings, the planets etc. etc. etc.

They are all false, hear me out......they are all false in the respect that none of these space related things or occurrences or pictures happened or took place above God's firmament.... this bowl...... that He has placed us under.

Are there satellites and man made machines circling over our heads? Yes, but they are between earth and God's clear firmament. If you do some research you will find that these satellites are and were taken up to be suspended under this firmament / dome by huge helium balloons. There are semi-secret companies in Antarctica and Sweden and other areas of the globe that launch these huge balloons and their satellites on a regular basis. Not rockets taking them into orbit.

As for all the pictures and videos that were supposedly taken above the firmament......hundreds and thousands of miles up....... they are all either computer generated or filmed in NASA or the Ephesians 6:12 crowd studios.

Yes, I even mentioned above “the planets” as being false. In the respect of what we have been told about them they are. They do not orbit around the sun as we have been told. They merely wander on their “God given paths”. God refers to them not as planets but wandering stars. Three of them show up in the great Revelation 12 sign that is to appear this September as part of the 12 stars at the head of Virgo. God there calls them stars not planets......as earth is NOT a planet....... but is a stationary grounded land mass stationed as the center of God's creation with all of the components of the cosmos circling and rotating around the north star...... over the head of earth..... so to speak.

As I have stated in previous posts the sun and the moon as per God's Word are in His firmament a couple of hundred miles above earth and rotate around the earth. They are two different sources of light that God created just for us and the earth. One to illuminate the day and one to illuminate the night and they both are God's timekeepers.

Their light sources are different, each generates it's own light. Moon light is not reflected sunlight. This can be verified at night by measuring the temperature of direct moonlight by itself and then measuring the temperature under a tree where the moonlight is shaded. Direct moonlight is colder than what is under the shade of a tree. If moonlight was reflected sunlight the temperature of the direct moonlight would be warmer not colder.

You will find if you research, that in the late 1950's the United States and Russia realized that there was indeed a firmament / doom above earth........ and each country detonated several nuclear weapons in the space above our planet in an effort to blow a hole in God's firmament.

The elephant in the room here is.......... why does the Ephesian 6:12 crowd go to such extreme lengths to conceal the truth about where we actually live and what actually encompasses the space over our heads..... in the heavens????

I will answer that question the way I see it. I believe that there is a huge contest (so to speak) going on for the souls of mankind between God and Satan, kind of like or just like the story line that we find in the Book of Job. Satan is trying every trick he can muster to convince mankind that there is no one true God that created all things in an effort to sway souls / converts his way.

If the Satan-ista's can convince mankind that there was this gigantic explosion (better known as the big bang theory) and all of the cosmos arose from that explosion and that earth is just some minuscule insignificant tiny byproduct of that explosion and the living things that occupy this land mass (including mankind) slowly over billions of years evolved from primordial pond scum and that there is no higher being or creator of all of this.......then the Satan-ista's have achieved their mission. They now have untold millions of people kneeling at their altar to science.....albeit...complete fake and false science.

False idols of all descriptions.....false space programs, false astro-nots, false space vehicles, false moon landings, false pictures, false dead people, false vacuum travel, false spinning globe, a complete false description of what is above us in the heavens. false ...false...false. And this false reality.... this false idol...... has become the greatest deception ever perpetrated against mankind. All falsely created I believe to deceive and steal souls from God.

Now lets contrast this complete Satanic ruse against the account of what God has shared with us concerning His creation as is expressed and brought forth in the Holy Bible.

The bible says....

God created everything that exists in the heavens and on the earth. The earth is literally the stationary center of creation, it rests and is secured on a flat plane with a clear dome called the firmament covering the earth a couple of hundred miles above it. In and above that firmament all of the known universe with all of it's components is rotating counterclockwise and continually pivoting around a fixed point which we call the north star. Like a kaleidoscope revolving around a fixed point in a viewer.

The sun and the moon are a tiny fraction of the size portrayed by the Satan-ista's. They are God's timekeepers and each give off their own light. They, as per God, are in the firmament and rotate above the flat planed earth on paths determined by God and can be stopped by God if He wishes.... as He has done in the past...... and is prophesied to do in the future. They are close enough to earth's surface that we are able to look up and view them clearly.

(The human eye surely has distance limitations and for the Satan-ista's to declare that the moon and the sun are hundreds of thousands and hundreds of millions of miles away is to me complete insanity......there is no way we could see them at those distances)

The stars are a mystery as to exactly what they are but are not “on fire” distant suns like our own. Whatever they are, they are not millions of light years away as the opposing team would have us believe.

If all of mankind knew (like they did just 400 years ago) that we lived on a flat plane with beautiful oceans and lakes. A flat covered plane..... or inside of what could be described as a terrarium and inside this enclosure it was stocked with everything a human being could ever desire, an endless buffet of plants and animals of every description, all created by a loving God just for us.

Would not the realization of all of this cause mankind to be ever cognizant of our generous and loving creator and draw us closer to Him and would it not cause mankind to more closely adhere to His wishes for us....... His rules and regulations as He prescribed them for us in the “operating instructions for mankind”....the bible.

Wouldn't this cause many many more souls in the coming great harvest to adhere to God's team (so to speak), to stay close to Him and be saved? I definitely believe it would!!

But Satan being the master liar he is formulated a plot to capture as many souls as possible. He took over the high ground, the Ephesians 6:12 ground. He schemed with his minions to convince mankind that...... they themselves....... and where they live.... were insignificant and nothing special. Just the results of random selection and dust particles that came together after some big bang.

Well I'm here to shout from the rooftops that Satan and his Ephesians 6:12 minions are full of dog-do right up to the tops of their ugly demonic heads. And me and many others are shinning a huge light of truth to expose their evil agenda.

As I always say...please don't take my word for all of this...... you need to dig into this snake pit for yourselves..... and please consult the scriptures..... and also the people who have literally dedicated their lives in an attempt to un-cloak this most evil of deceptions.

It may take you weeks to sift through all the facts and figures and youtube vides that are out there but when all is said and done I am quite sure as to what conclusion or story line that you will agree with.........God's

 

Blessings.....John B