Gerlinda (22 Feb 2012)
"To all I offended regarding Joyce Meyer"


 
  
 

re this post here:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2012/gerlinda218-2.htm

Clay Cantrell (21 Feb 2012)
"Gerlinda's Joyce Meyer's post"

 

I hope that the writer would rephrase her comments on Joyce Meyer should she do this over again. Remember, a Christian should strive to express themselves in a manner that they feel comfortable being repeated back to them from the Throne on the Day of Judgment of the Church.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2012/clay221.htm

Clay,  I've read all the letters regarding my post on Joyce Meyer and take them to heart,  especially your words above (of which I copied this portion).  I will apologize for my lack of tact and for posting my personal opinion.  I have a tendancy to be blunt and to the point.  Perhaps you do not know that her yearly income is over 90 million with no Out-Reach other than family, close friends and any that benefit her ministry.  This bothers me as it does others including this pastor in below account.  Please read some of the evidence I've included with their sources.  gerlinda.   

Meyer's ministry withdraws program from Channel 24 By BILL SMITH Post-Dispatch

01/02/2004 Joyce Meyer's “Life in the Word” TV show will no longer be aired on the Rev. Larry Rice's KNLC (Channel 24).

Rice said he had told Meyer two weeks ago that he was canceling her Sunday evening program and was considering canceling her weekday show when the ministry notified him Friday that it was pulling off the station.

Rice said his actions were prompted by Meyer's lavish lifestyle and what he saw as teachings that often went “beyond Scripture.”

Rice said he had become increasingly worried about what he views as the “excessive lifestyle” of Meyer and her family.

He said Friday that the ministry's $2.5 million home in south St. Louis County where Meyer lives, and the $100,000 Mercedes-Benz owned by her husband, Dave, “crosses the line.”

“She wasn't always like this,” he said of Meyer. “She's really drifted.”

Good for him to stand up for the truth even though he would lose money. We need more people with integrity like this.

*After 9 years of giving, man has no Chrysler, no wife, no wealth By Carolyn Tuft Post-Dispatch 11/17/2003

Bob Schneller gave to Joyce Meyer until it hurt. Nine years later, he says, it still aches.

He's out of money, out of a marriage and out of faith with televangelists.

Schneller, 59, lives alone in a 600-square-foot, early-model mobile home in House Springs. He's surrounded by videotapes of televangelists. He says he studies the tapes to learn how he was taken in by Meyer.

Not so long ago, Schneller spent his days hanging on Meyer's every word. The money he gave her - $4,400 a year - surpassed his annual mortgage payment. He and his wife lived on $30,000 a year.

“She teaches you that if you give a seed offering, it will come back tenfold or a hundredfold,” Schneller said. “I know it sounds ridiculous, but you get caught up in it. You believe it as truth.” “Her teachings were practical,” Schneller said. “I'd never heard anyone preach that way before.”

He goes on to say Most of what Meyer taught, Schneller said, is what he calls the “name-it-and-claim-it” theology: If you have enough faith, you can name what you want.

“So I laid across the hood of a brand new 1985 Chrysler Fifth Avenue,” Schneller said. “I never did get it. She would say that I didn't have enough faith, or that there was sin in my life blocking the blessing. It always goes back to you.”

The Schnellers began giving more to Meyer: $350 a month. They went to Meyer's home Bible sessions.

By the early 1990s, Meyer's popularity started to climb.

But Schneller was less fortunate. His back went out, and he lacked money to pay his bills. He went to Meyer and told her what was happening. She laid her hands on him, he said, and told him that he would be healed, that his problems would soon go away.

“One day, I went out to my mailbox, and there inside were six $100 bills wrapped up,” Schneller said. “Right after that, she had me give testimony, and she used it to prove that you can be blessed.”

Despite the $600, nothing changed, he said. He went on workers' compensation and underwent neck surgery. Meyer called him to wish him well, he said. She began giving seed money to a ministry that Schneller and his wife had started, Sword of Spirit of Truth.

Then, in the spring of 1994, a new technique was percolating among charismatics like Meyer. It was called “holy laughter,” a ritual in which the congregation sings songs repetitively. The preacher steps onstage and begins laughing. Immediately, the room breaks into laughter. People slide out of their chairs and onto the floor, “drunk on the Holy Spirit.”

But Schneller felt uncomfortable with it.

The Schnellers went to a church in Waterloo. There, Schneller spoke out against holy laughter. A few days later, Schneller said, his wife was called into Meyer's office.

Meyer told her, Schneller said, that because of their position on holy laughter, “I can no longer support you.”

They parted ways.

Since then, Schneller's marriage has fallen apart. He works as a security guard and attends a “regular church, where the Bible is taught verse by verse.”

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In today’s tv church and in other churches……verse by verse Bible study is quite unusual! Oh…..if we just had more of this type teaching!

These are only a few stories that need to be paid attention to when you listen to Joyce Meyer or any of those that teach the false prosperity promises.

http://www.theanswerischrist.com/id35.html

 
Some people do ask questions about what they hear and we have every right to examine ones teachings that are spoken publicly to see if they are right or wrong. The apostle Paul commended the Berean's for questioning what he spoke to them
 
 
Joyce Meyer Ministries
 
buying a house for the homeless would cause the present owner to become homeless.
 
 
Prosperity Gospel

Michael Scott Horton, who teaches historical theology at the Westminister Theological Seminary in Escondido, Ca., calls the message a twisted interpretation of the Bible -- a "wild and wacky theology.

"Some of these people are charlatans,'' Horton said. "Others are honestly dedicated to one of the most abhorrent errors in religious theology.