Arlene (25 Feb 2012)
"Maybe together we can get to the truth..."


Hi John and all the Doves...

There is a question I have that I'm not sure can be answered.  But, if there is an answer, maybe between all of us together we can figure it out.  During the last few years, I have encountered a few people who have had an "encounter" of some sort with someone whom they claimed to be "Jesus".  This encounter caused revelations that were contrary to what I know to be the truth.  They also run contrary to each other.  One has claimed that "Jesus" told him to prepare for the Tribulation because the church will not escape.  On the other hand, one claimed that "Jesus" told her several things that will be happening during the time just before the rapture, and the church will escape this time.  So many people are actually having "face to face" encounters with someone who claims to be our Lord Jesus.

Is this possible?  I believe that Jesus told us that He had to leav! e before the Holy Spirit could come (John 16:7).  If this is so, then how could both the Holy Spirit (indwelling believers) and Jesus Christ be here at the same time?  If the Holy Spirit is here to show us "things to come" (John 16:13), then why would it even be necessary for our Lord to make individual appearances at this time as well?  There is little to nothing about this on the internet...and I have never heard a sermon on this.  I did find one small piece that I copied from a blog from an unknown person in regards to this:

...till the Holy Spirit 'goes away'. This is a thought that occured to me today. Jesus said in John 16:7 "But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you." The only reason we know of for the 'removal' of the 'Restrainmer' (Holy Spirit) is according to II Thess. 2 that the AntiChrist & Satan to have their 'full work'.

(It is a mystery why both Jesus and the Holy Spirit would not minister here on earth at the same time)

Could there be another reason for the 'removal' of the Holy Spirit as 'the reversal' of John 16:7? There was a span of time from Jesus's accension to the coming of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost; so what if there is by necessity that the Holy Spirit needs to 'accend' also for Jesus to come for the 2nd time (not rapture) after a span of time (howbeit 7 Yrs).
One thing we know for sure is that Jesus will not leave us as orphans (John 14:18 "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you").


Well, that's my question, Doves!  Who is this "Jesus" who has appeared "face to face" or in the same room with others to tell them special revelations?  Could it be our Lord, Himself?  Or could it be a deceiving angel?  And why does this "person" appear to some and not to others...Romans 2:11..."For there is no respect of persons with God".  The answer to this may save many from a future deception which will claim that "Jesus has arrived".  And if the Holy Spirit is still here indwelling believers, we will know for sure this is actually a deception.

Maybe someone here knows the answer....
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YsiC,

Arlene