As a number of you might already understand that Enoch's name is within the word Hanukkah.  Enoch is the first one described in the scriptures as being removed from reality (raptured), being taken up by God.  I am thinking Enoch is specifically a type/shadow for us.

A premise I have in what I am about to explain is that there are three groups that God has dealt with, is dealing with, and will deal with over time: the nations, the chosen remnant within Israel/Judah, and us who are new creations in our union with the Godhead through our union with the Holy Spirit (see II Corinthians 5:17).  New Creations have been brought into a reality that transcends our physical descendency from nations.  Galatians 3:26-28 shows this:

26For you are all  sons  and daughters of God  through  faith  in Christ  Jesus . 27For all  of you who  were baptized  into Christ  have clothed  yourselves with Christ . 28There  is  neither  Jew  nor  Greek , there  is  neither  slave  nor  free , there  is  [ak]neither  male  nor  female ; for you are all  one  in Christ  Jesus.

With the above in mind, I observe something interesting in Hebrews 11:3-10 that I believe applies to us.  I am using the Young's translation below.  Young's, from my understanding, was translated from the same set of manuscripts as used by the KJV.  Young's focus is word accuracy in translation without adding additional English words to bring out the subtle meanings from the translator's perspective.  I go to Young's when I want to bring clarity while other translations seem cloudy with respect to a particular word/phrase/verse.  I believe this is the case in the following with respect to verse 3 and is important to the point I am going to make.

3by faith we understand the ages to have been prepared by a saying of God, in regard to the things seen not having come out of things appearing; 4by faith a better sacrifice did Abel offer to God than Cain, through which he was testified to be righteous, God testifying of his gifts, and through it, he being dead, doth yet speak. 5By faith Enoch was translated — not to see death, and was not found, because God did translate him; for before his translation he had been testified to — that he had pleased God well, 6and apart from faith it is impossible to please well, for it behoveth him who is coming to God to believe that He is, and to those seeking Him He becometh a rewarder. 7By faith Noah, having been divinely warned concerning the things not yet seen, having feared, did prepare an ark to the salvation of his house, through which he did condemn the world, and of the righteousness according to faith he became heir. 8By faith Abraham, being called, did obey, to go forth to the place that he was about to receive for an inheritance, and he went forth, not knowing whither he doth go; 9by faith he did sojourn in the land of the promise as a strange country, in tabernacles having dwelt with Isaac and Jacob, fellow-heirs of the same promise, 10for he was looking for the city having the foundations, whose artificer and constructor [is] God.

The word "ages" in verse 3 is accurate.  A number of other translations use the word "world".  What the above is showing in verse three is that God deals with people in specific ages and when there is a transition from one age to another, the current age is not simply a modification of a former age.  Think is terms of what Jesus said, that you cannot put new wine in old wine skins, nor can you use a patch from a new fabric to repair an old garment.  Think in terms of the Tower of Babel and then God transitions to Abraham.  Think if terms of the stoning of Stephen and God transitions to Paul.  Think in terms of the destruction of both temples.

With this understanding of verse 3 in mind, I then see in verses 5-10 an age of Enoch, an age of Noah, and an age of Abraham.  Enoch was removed prior to the worldwide judgement.  He saw this coming and is why he named his son Methuselah which means "his death shall bring".  I think we are in the same place, seeing judgement coming but will be taken out like Enoch prior to it beginning.  Noah was preserved but went through judgement.  I believe this relates to the nations in the next seven years at the end of which the fullness of the Gentiles will be brought in.  Then the text focuses on Abraham whose heart was for a city/reality out of the heavens. I believe there will be an additional seven years of judgement at the end of which the chosen remnant of Israel/Judah will come before the King of Kings, and at the end of the Lord's 1000 year reign on earth, what Abraham longed for will take place.  See Revelation 21:1-4:

1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea. 2And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is among the people, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His [a]people, and God Himself will be among them[b], 4and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.”

(FYI, I go into a little more explanation of this 7 plus 7 years of judgment at the very end of this post)

Even though as new creations we can participate in the earthly kingdom if we wish during Jesus initial earthly reign, the kingdom we have been given is of the heavenly places as explained in Ephesians 1:2-6:

2Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, 4just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before [d]Him. In love 5[e]He predestined us to adoption as sons and daughters through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, 6to the praise of the glory of His grace, with which He favored us in the Beloved.

Once we get home and after we spend the 7 days (7 years) with out companion Jesus, some of us will then begin to occupy the spiritual places of the fallen angels.  That is mentioned in Revelation 12:7-9:

7And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war, 8and they did not prevail, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven. 9And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole [d]world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

I am stressing here the distinction of the Enoch group, or new creations who have to walk with God one on one like Enoch did, verses a Noah group who was preserved through the world wide judgement and out of whom the nations rose, and verses an Abraham group who will be present when the King arrives to the earth.  My point is that Enoch is a type shadow for us, not Noah nor Abraham.

Remember, it is Enoch first, then Noah, then Abraham in Hebrews 11.

Now, when might we go with respect to Enoch?  Is there any clue that hints at a possibility of timing?  I an thinking sometime during the Feast of Hanukkah, since God tied Enoch's name together with the word Hanukkah.

Hanukkah is 8 days.  When it was established, it was understood to be a second Tabernacles.  I observe some of those watching for Jesus are focusing on the 24th day of the 9th month per Haggai 2.  One of those folks is a Youtuber KoolKat7729.  See his latest video here: THE DATE SETTER !!!! GIVES GOD GREAT GLORY ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
   
   
THE DATE SETTER !!!! GIVES GOD GREAT GLORY ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

   

As I have explained on posts in the prior two weeks, I lean to the midst of Hanukkah, when the 1st day of the 10th month takes place. 

However, there is also a possibility of the 7th day of Hanukkah from a clue about what Enoch experienced as expressed in the 3rd chapter of Jasher:

32 And it was after this that he rose up and rode upon the horse; and he went forth and all the sons of men went after him, about eight hundred thousand men; and they went with him one day's journey.

33 And the second day he said to them, Return home to your tents, why will you go? perhaps you may die; and some of them went from him, and those that remained went with him six day's journey; and Enoch said to them every day, Return to your tents, lest you may die; but they were not willing to return, and they went with him.

34 And on the sixth day some of the men remained and clung to him, and they said to him, We will go with thee to the place where thou goest; as the Lord liveth, death only shall separate us.

35 And they urged so much to go with him, that he ceased speaking to them; and they went after him and would not return;

36 And when the kings returned they caused a census to be taken, in order to know the number of remaining men that went with Enoch; and it was upon the seventh day that Enoch ascended into heaven in a whirlwind, with horses and chariots of fire.

37 And on the eighth day all the kings that had been with Enoch sent to bring back the number of men that were with Enoch, in that place from which he ascended into heaven.

38 And all those kings went to the place and they found the earth there filled with snow, and upon the snow were large stones of snow, and one said to the other, Come, let us break through the snow and see, perhaps the men that remained with Enoch are dead, and are now under the stones of snow, and they searched but could not find him, for he had ascended into heaven.

For what it is worth.

God bless you.

Jesus is worthy of our continual watching.

PS  In this post I mentioned in passing that I believe the coming judgement years will be a seven year (for the nations) and a seven year (for the remnant Israel/Judah).   I do not wish to go into a lot of detail here but a clear type shadow of this, in my mind, is in the story of Jacob.  After he left home, his first experience with God was of a portal/doorway opening up from heaven (see Genesis 28:10-17).  I believe this points to Revelation 4:1.  Jacob/Jesus loves Rachel (Israel) but gets Leah first (nations) who does not see well and who make a lot of babies.  Jacob/Jesus works 7 years for Leah, and 7 years for Rachel.  After that he sorts through the animals, and after a period of six years, he takes those that belong to him (picture Jesus gathering folks to Jerusalem from around the world, and think also here of the sheep/goat judgment in Matthew 25:31ff).

The reason that Jesus will not initially deal with Israel after He comes for us is that Israel has to be removed from the land temporarily because they owe God for the years they did not allow the land to rest (from Yom Kippur 1973 to the end of Tabernacles on October 7, 2023).  It is just like what happened during Jeremiah's time.  Judah going into captivity for 70 years was in part for the land to rest.  That is a type/shadow for what is soon to happen.

I do not believe Ezekiel 38 nor 39 applies to now.  I believe Ezekiel 38 points to the end of the 1000 year reign of Christ when Satan is loosed for a season and brings the people in rebellion to Jerusalem.  See Revelation 20:7-10:

7When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, 8and will come out to deceive the nations which are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the [c]seashore. 9And they came up on the [d]broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the [e]saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and [f]brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

I believe Ezekiel 39 applies to when Jesus comes back at the end of the judgement years.

Psalm 83 applies to now but will take place at the end of the first seven years of judgement.  Notice that the Psalmist is appealing to God for deliverance by mentioning past times where God showed Himself strong on their behalf.  One of those past times is mentioned in verses 11-12:

11Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb, and all their leaders like Zebah and Zalmunna, 12who said, “Let’s possess for ourselves the pastures of God.”

That deliverance took place during the time of Gideon.  What is important in looking at the story of Gideon, is to know that it does NOT start at Judges 6:11 when Gideon encounters God, but in verses 1-3:

1Then the sons of Israel did what was evil in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD handed them over to Midian for seven years. 2The [a]power of Midian prevailed against Israel. Because of Midian the sons of Israel made for themselves the dens which were in the mountains and the caves and the strongholds. 3For whenever Israel had sown, the Midianites would come up with the Amalekites and the [b]people of the east and [c]march against them.

How long did the oppression last ?

Who came against them?  Who is coming against Israel today?

In the first 10 verses of Judges 6 Israel asked for deliverance. However, initially, in verse 10 God tells them "no".

I believe after the first seven years of upcoming judgement, the chosen remnant of Israel/Judah will come to the two witnesses Moses and Elijah.  This remnant will eventually be those who have to hide in the wilderness for three and a half years.  In the end they will be brought to King Jesus the LORD.

Douglas Henney

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