Dear Doves,
In reading Scripture lately, I now truly believe that the Rapture will not occur until
after the Tribulation.
I
can already hear a lot of you saying, “Whoa, MathMan, hold on there.
Are you saying that you are no long in agreement with a Pre-Tribulation
Rapture?”
The answer is – No, I still 100% completely agree with a Pre-Tribulation Rapture!!!
Hmm, now how is this even possible? You can’t believe in both can you?
Yes,
Scripture allows me to believe in BOTH!! Quite simply, Scripture
outlines that there are actually going to be two separate Tribulations.
The first being the
“Great Tribulation” just for Israel and the second being “Great
Tribulation” for the World.
Here
is how I believe it will transpire, wherein I still feel this fits
nicely into the timeline I outlined in my May 11, 2014 article:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2014/mathman511-1.htm
Starting
soon – VERY soon - we are going to see “Great Tribulation” breaking out
in Israel. When it does, many in the Church, and especially us
watchers, will be
left scratching their heads and saying, “What is going on here! I
thought we would be Raptured before things got serious in Israel!!”.
Not true. This “surprise order” is actually confirmed in Matthew 24:29-31, a Rapture verse hidden in plain sight:
29
Immediately
after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the
moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and
the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall
appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the
tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in
the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a
trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds,
from one end of heaven to the other.
In
verse 29, Jesus is addressing Israel and their future tribulation, the
time of Jacob’s Trouble, the Great Tribulation of Israel,
NOT the Great Tribulation of the World. In other parts of
Scripture, the Lord outlines why the Rapture must now occur. Quite
simply, Jesus knows that Israel would be soon destroyed if He didn’t do
something…and soon. So what exactly does He
decide to do? This is outlined two verses later!
In
verse 31, He refocuses the World’s attention OFF of Israel by providing
Tribulation to those pursuing God’s people – which is now the entire
World, meaning the
WHOLE World now goes into Tribulation. Jesus does this via the Rapture
– this is the starting pistol of the Great Tribulation of the World.
Some
argue that this is a verse about the Second Coming, not the Rapture,
but, mathematically, it simply can’t be. In the Second Coming, Jesus
slaughters His enemies
by returning to Earth and using the Truth of His Great Light as His
weapon. This, in no way, matches the description of “gathering together
His elect with His angels with a great sound of a trumpet” here in
verse 31. This could only be one thing – THE RAPTURE!!
By
the way, I am not the only one who feels this way. I suggest you
review Bruce Warner’s posts. Bruce Warner has been posting some
excellent material and is making
an excellent Scriptural argument for two separate Tribulations, wherein
the Rapture is preceded by Great Tribulation in Israel.
So what does this all mean to us watchers? First the Bad News:
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We
are still going to be here for a while before the Rapture occurs. My
best guess is until June 7, 2017, whereas Bruce believes either Palm
Sunday in
2015 or 2016 (I hope Bruce is right – the sooner the better)
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We
are going to see some horrible things happening to our Sister, Israel.
Pray for her without ceasing and you will be blessed. The time of
Jacob’s Trouble
in Israel will be terribly brutal and will cause many of us watchers to
scratch our heads and wonder if we were wrong about the Rapture. WE
ARE NOT!! It is not delayed, the Lord does NOT tarry – it will occur on
the appointed time AFTER the appointed events
And now the Good News:
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The
Great Tribulation of the World will not start until AFTER the Rapture.
The Rapture will actually buy Israel some time as the World
“regroups”. Nonetheless,
Scripture is clear that the “man of sin”, the Anti-Christ, will conquer
Israel and make a mockery of the Jews soon after the Rapture
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While
things will get ugly, the best of news is that we will be Raptured
before it gets truly bad. On a Tribulation Scale of 1 to 10, we are
about a 2
right now and will gradually move to a 3 prior to the Rapture (Israel
is about a 2, but we will see it move to an 8). Why only a 3 for us?
Because after the Rapture, Satan and his horde will be unleashed and
unrestrained. This will instantly put the World
to a 10 on the Tribulation Scale. It will be the worst of times for
the World, wherein those who truly love Jesus will be gone, gone, gone
before it does
In
the dreams from SparrowCloud9, the Lord CONTINUOUSLY reminds us to
watch Israel. He says this to Erin over and over again. Why? Because
we are going to see
things happen in Israel that will make our hearts sicken. My
speculation is that the Islamic State has been allowed to rise for just
this purpose. Here is an excerpt from her dream posted on December 7th, 2014 indicating that events must still
occur before the Rapture:
http://www.sparrowsbarn.com/p-3-prophetic-dream-iii
Jesus:
Okay, let's look at a scripture you have been meditating on. Do you recall which one?
Erin: Yes, Lord. Acts 2:19-20.
Jesus: You have felt my prompting to break this down. What are
you finding?
Erin: Well, 2 blood moons have come, 2 are left and there are
things which must occur before You come.
Jesus: Good, please explain.
Erin: Well after I broke this scripture down, this is what I
found:
Acts
2:19-20: “I will show wonders in the Heaven above and signs in the
earth below, BLOOD and FIRE and BILLOWS OF SMOKE. (Next) The Sun will be
turned to darkness
AND the Moon to BLOOD. Before the coming of the Great and Glorious Day
of the Lord.”
Jesus: Very good – this is written. Now, tell Me what you found
or that which you speculate.
Erin: Well, Lord, we are to read Scripture, not in part, but
in full. We are also to read the order in simple terms so here is my best guess.
1) We will see wonders in heaven above – like stars, comets, storms, or things in the Heaven we see.
2)
Next, we will see signs on Earth below in this order: Blood – 1st,
Fire 2nd, and billows of smoke 3rd. Then the sun will be turned to
darkness – in March
2015 possibly? Then the Moon to blood either the 3rd moon or 4th blood
Moon, before the coming of the Lord.
Jesus:
Very good Erin. You have seen this right in Scripture.
Erin:
The mid-point of all these events is January 2015, and
then the total eclipse of the Sun is in March 2015. Something
involving BLOOD, FIRE & BILLOWS OF SMOKE might happen to the US or
Israel, or both. Lord there is very little time. First there will be
blood, then fire, then smoke. This is scary.
Jesus: Yes, but it has been there for some time. You are just
realizing the time your race is in.
Jesus
then continues in this dream (matching His instructions in previous
dreams) to remind us that we, His children, are not to worry or stress,
but remain joyful
in our faith AND to continue to pray for Israel. He will protect us
and give us what we need. In terms of the stress in Israel, this is all
designed for His Divine Purpose.
In
conclusion, if we are to remain here on Earth for a while longer than
we thought, please do not stress. We are still in the VERY last of days
– the time is extremely
short. However, these days may just not play out in the exact way we
have been previously taught. Even so, do not stop watching and do not
give up hope, no matter what. All must be fulfilled as written and THEN
shall it be the
“coming of the Great and Glorious Day of the Lord.” – OUR LONG AWAITED RAPTURE.
Jesus promised us this and I believe Him…so should you!
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Brothers
and sisters, are you ready to meet the Lord in the sky? Repent and
believe that grace is by faith alone and can ONLY be attained through
Jesus Christ.
Get ready and leave the temptations of this world behind and ready
yourself as a Bride.
Surely, time is almost up.
YbiC, MathMan