Rowina (17 Dec 2013)
"To David H, thanks for the great discussion"
David, I do not place Dave Hunt in the same category as Texe Marrs
except on one issue, and that is the issue of condemning all Catholics
to hell.
I did read a book by Dave Hunt, and in it he implied, as does Texe
Marrs, that all Catholics are going to hell, simply by being attending
members of the Catholic Church.
Simply because they have not resigned and walked out the door and cut all ties to the offending body.
I have known many Catholics, and I have to say that some have been
better people than most of the Protestants I have met. Now you may
say, well, you are speaking
of "works". Perhaps I am. Yes, perhaps, I am speaking of the
"works" they did which were the Fruit of the Spirit which they
had. But I've known Protestants who have had
great Fruit of the Spirit as well. John Tng and others here on the
Doves site are examples of Protestants with great Fruit.
As you say, David, we get so tangled in faith vs. works that we cannot even make sense any more.
I firmly believe in faith as superior to works. Faith is how we are saved.
Why do I believe this? Simple. I see a fallen world in
which, as you put it in your recent post to Doves, all people err, all
people sin. That includes Protestants and Catholics.
Our only hope of salvation, therefore, is by faith, as we cannot help
sinning. This is becoming more and more manifest as we look around
the world, the environment in which
we are stuck, like flies on a plate of glue, stuck in the matrix!
In these Last Days, if anyone does a good deed, perhaps it is credited
doubly to his account, for it is becoming more and more impossible to do
good in a world that is sinking
into dire sin.
Thus, I suggest we join hands with any congregation in each of our towns
which believes the basic gospel of Christ. That is, anyone who
believes that Jesus is their Savior
who died for him/her, rose from the dead, and will come to get His
children and save them from wrath. That includes Protestants and
Catholics.
It does not mean that the Catholic Church is without sin. It just
means that some of its children are "OK", trusting in the true Lord, not
in the Pope, to save them. They have
been taught the gospel by their church, just as Protestants have, even though the parent churches have sinned.
We really need the Lord, don't we, David? We need Him to come and put His arms around all of His children.
Mariel Rowina