Rowina (17 Dec 2013)
"To David H, thanks for the great discussion"


 

David, I do not place Dave Hunt in the same category as Texe Marrs except on one issue, and that is the issue of condemning all Catholics to hell.

I did read a book by Dave Hunt, and in it he implied, as does Texe Marrs, that all Catholics are going to hell, simply by being attending members of the Catholic Church.
Simply because they have not resigned and walked out the door and cut all ties to the offending body.

I have known many Catholics, and I have to say that some have been better people than most of the Protestants I have met.  Now you may say, well, you are speaking
of "works".  Perhaps I am.  Yes, perhaps, I am speaking of the "works" they did which were the Fruit of the Spirit which they had.  But I've known Protestants who have had
great Fruit of the Spirit as well.  John Tng and others here on the Doves site are examples of Protestants with great Fruit.  

As you say, David, we get so tangled in faith vs. works that we cannot even make sense any more.  

I firmly believe in faith as superior to works.  Faith is how we are saved.

Why do I believe this?  Simple.  I see a fallen world in which, as you put it in your recent post to Doves, all people err, all people sin.  That includes Protestants and Catholics.

Our only hope of salvation, therefore, is by faith, as we cannot help sinning.  This is becoming more and more manifest as we look around the world, the environment in which
we are stuck, like flies on a plate of glue, stuck in the matrix!

In these Last Days, if anyone does a good deed, perhaps it is credited doubly to his account, for it is becoming more and more impossible to do good in a world that is sinking
into dire sin.

Thus, I suggest we join hands with any congregation in each of our towns which believes the basic gospel of Christ.  That is, anyone who believes that Jesus is their Savior
who died for him/her, rose from the dead, and will come to get His children and save them from wrath.  That includes Protestants and Catholics.

It does not mean that the Catholic Church is without sin.  It just means that some of its children are "OK", trusting in the true Lord, not in the Pope, to save them.  They have
been taught the gospel by their church, just as Protestants have, even though the parent churches have sinned.  

We really need the Lord, don't we, David?  We need Him to come and put His arms around all of His children.

Mariel Rowina