Michael Lorion (4 Dec 2010)
"Re:Bruce Warners Rev 6:2 view"
Dear Bruce,
Your view that the rider on the white horse in Rev 6:2 is the Holy Spirit is Wrong!
If
it were the Holy Spirit here, or one of the Godhead, surely it would be
capitalized wouldnt it? But this is not the case here, so It isnt one
of the Godhead here. Plus, The rider rides in to conquer, but he does
so with deception, hence the bow,without arrows. It is an empty bow. He
may also then be thought of as a peaceful king, but politically savvy
and cunning as well. He has a crown and it was given to him by the
kings of the revived roman empire. He will conquer by deciet, and he
will become the ruler over all the other world kings at this time too.
But here at first he will not be recognized as the antichrist. Just as
you didnt recognize who he is, the world also will not recognize him
nor his methods either.
There is nowhere in scripture
where the Holy Spirit carries a bow, with arrows or not, also, there is
nowhere where the Holy Spirit wears a crown. The crown of righteousness
and the crown of life was for the faithful of Christ and God.
Jesus Christ is the One with the crown, a crown of a King, not the Holy
Spirit. Also, The gospel will be preached throughout the world and its
happenning now actually! But the scriptures dont say that the world
will be converted by the preaching, because the world will instead
reject the gospel of Christ. Also, the Word of God is not a bow! The
Holy Spirit has never been riding on a white horse since pentecost.
This is ridiculous!
The Holy Spirit comes to the
believer as a comforter, sent by Christ. The Holy Spirit also convicts
the sinners of the world and convicts and reproves unto repentance as
far as I know. That means the Holy Spirit is also involved with
everyone on earth, not just the believer, but for the believer, only
comfort. Now, I know many in the churches also believe this one in
Rev.6:2 is thought to be Christ on a white horse here, contrasting
Bruces view. However this view is also in error! When Christ comes it
will be with a sword, vengaence, and wrath...and He will personally
wage war on the wicked and the enemies of Christ. All the angels will
be with him too and the saints. That isnt what Rev.6:2 says.
The
antichrist comes in deception folks. He will appear as a great
political genius to Israel, and thats who they will agree to a seven
year strong covenant with. Note that it is not a peace treaty. it is a
strong covenant, by a willful king, who worships the gods of
fortresses. It is not Christ here either folks! And as far as deserving
a crown, the believers get a crown, yet they do not deserve it, it is
by Christ's work that the believer even gets a crown, and still the
believer really doesnt deserve a crown. It has nothing to do with the
believer deserving a crown, if it did the believer would not deserve
one by his own merits.
It is only by Christs mrercy
and gracious giving do we recieve anything at all. It has nohing to do
with the believer as far as crowns go, yet still we will recieve one.
So, The crowns arent about who deserves them. Since the Holy Spirit
doesnt have one, nor ever wore one, The whole crown issue doesnt even
apply to the Holy Spirit.
The end you should be referring
to as the end here, is the end of the gentile rulers of the world
kingdoms, of which Christ will rule after they are all removed for all
time. But obviously, we still have gentile rulers ruling over the
world, well past pentecost, so obviously there is a problem with that
pentecost theology where Christ rules over the earth now. See, When
Christ rules as King there will be no more gentile world rulers in
power anywhere any longer. Its in the scriptures. So, Although Antiocus
Epiphanes is a popular person to place as an antichrist back in the
days just before the Maccabees, He was just a type of antichrist to
come. Some say Nero was the antichrist, but he was less descriptive as
being an antichrist than was Antiocus Epiphanes! When Christ rules, all
world gentile rulers will cease forever! So, it hasnt happened yet
folks!
So obviously Christ has not yet recieved His
kingdom to rule on the earth yet. Thats why the views on such things
have become spiritualized over the years, otherwise your ideas make no
sense. Actually, your views dont line up with the scriptures as a
spiritual kingdom now, as some believe. It is spiritual, but currently
it is the pearl, the church period of time, which operates in spiritual
things. But it is definitely not Christ reigning on earth in the church
now according to scriptures.
When Christ returns, it will
be to remove Gentile rule, to slay the wicked and some of the enemies
of Christ, and to set up a literal Kingdom, ruled by Christ. It will be
that in the Milemnnuim. That, by the way, is also often ignored by much
of the church. Christ will rule there literally.
I suppose I could go on and on in these things but for now, this will do hopefully.
Im
not an expert, but I cant just let this go about the Holy Spirit
without saying something against it. The new lambs of the flock and
those who have not yet come to Christ are reading our posts too!
Michael Lorion