1) King Hezekiah's sun dial
was changed to give him more time to live
after God told him through a prophet that
he "was going to die."
God made it an absolute declaration and
never mentioned He could be persuaded to
change His mind. Was God
lying? No, but He reserves the right
to change His mind on our behalf if
persuaded to do so.
Isaiah
38:1 - Hezekiah was told he
would die;
Vs. 2 -
Hezekiah pleads for more time;
Vs. 5 - Time
Changed: God
gave him 15 more years;
Vs. 8 -
God brought down the sun dial of Ahaz 10
degrees backward as
proof.
2) God
changed His mind five times
at Abraham's plea to spare the cities of
Sodom & Gomorrah.
3) God
changes time:
Joshua 10:13 and Habakkuk 3:11.
4) God
sent an angel to be a lying spirit
in the mouth of all prophets: I
Kings 22:22-23 /
2 Chronicles
18:21-22.
There are many other instances of
God changing His mind in the Old
Testament. So the point is, God can
do anything, even
without everyone knowing should
He please to do so.
D: In my
opinion, you place too much trust in
believing NDE's to be the God's honest
truth when they are not.
A:
There are many things we won't know
until we reach Heaven. I'm willing
to give a person's personal account of
their visit to the other side the
'benefit of a doubt' as long as it
doesn't violate scripture.
However, when it comes to
the Book of Enoch, claims are made that
blatantly violate scripture about the
blood of Jesus and what He has declared
about angels not having sexual
capability. NDEs are men's
personal accounts which understandably
can't always be proven, but accounts in
the book of Enoch that violate scripture
can be proven by comparing God's
mathematically, scientifically proven
and inspired Word (the Holy Bible)
against certain statements from the book
of Enoch.
As you know from our past
discussion, for reasons not specified,
the book of Enoch was looked down on by
the early church fathers who knew
Jesus. They held it against Jude
for including a quote from the book of
Enoch, though, in my opinion, there's
nothing wrong with what Jude (aka James,
the brother of Jesus) quoted from Enoch
which told about the 2nd Coming of Jesus
with all His saints. So there must
have been something else we don't know
about Enoch and his book that diminished
Jude's status among those who knew Jesus
up close and personal.
Even today, an introduction to
the book of Jude in my King James Bible
states: "The book of Jude suffered
diminished status because of
its citations from the non-canonical
books of Enoch and the assumption of
Moses." The early church fathers,
who knew Jesus, apparently had
controversies with these books based on
their live experiences and knowledge
gained from being with Jesus personally.
As stated before, from the exact
science of mathematics, we also know the
book of Enoch does not
have mathematical proof of Divine
inspiration as do the rest of the books
in the Bible that we have today,
per Ivan Panin's amazing discovery
entitled "The Signature of God."
Below is a link to an absolutely
fascinating video I came across just
last night. It says, "Google's
Quantum AI was asked, Who built the
universe?" It replied
that "Reality at its deepest level is
pure mathematics." If that is so,
"the question of who built it begins to
sound like computer science. Who
builds mathematical structures?
Who writes code? Who engineers
elegance in the laws of physics, the
fine tuning of constants so precise
(that) if any one of them were shifted
by a fraction of a percent, atoms
wouldn't form, stars wouldn't burn, life
would be impossible anywhere in the
cosmos?"
"The fine tuning problem is one
of the most stubborn and uncomfortable
facts in Cosmology. The
cosmological constant, the energy
density of empty space is tuned to a
precision of 1 part in 10, to the power
of 120. That is a number so
absurdly precise that physicists have
spent decades trying to explain it
away. The strong nuclear force,
the electromagnetic force, the ratio of
the mass of the proton, all of them sit
at values that seem chosen
- not random, not inevitable - chosen
from an unimaginable vast range of
possible values to produce a universe
that works, is stable, where complexity
can arise and chemistry can happen,
where biology can emerge where minds can
look up at the stars and ask "why?"
This
mathematical precision verified by
Google's AI is what Ivan Panin
discovered in the Torah and Biblical
books we have today (excluding the
Apocryphal books found in the Catholic
Bible). If just one mistake was
made, it would throw off everything
else. Interestingly enough, the
authors of those books existed in
different centuries over time and had no
way to corroborate with one another what they wrote to
make the math come out without error. That's
why it can be trusted. Math is
an exact science; 1+1 has to equal
2. No other books in the world
have this amazing
mathematical pattern. Panin
invited anyone to disprove him and
no one has yet to date.
Consequently, we can't teach the
book of Enoch as absolute fact since
it lacks this mathematical
proof. However, we can test
its veracity against scriptures that
do have that mathematical
pattern.
D: As
for your question, "Where do you get the
idea of "the rest of the 1/3rd
angels?" It can
be found in Rev. 12:3-4.
A:
Note that the verse doesn't say 200
angels, nor that they are "the rest of
the fallen angels." It is
referring to the initial event that
occurred when Satan was cast out of
Heaven with his fallen angels back at
Creation. Think
about it: If
there were 200 fallen angels cast out,
who equaled 1/3rd of the angels in
Heaven, logic dictates that means
there are only 400 good angels left in
Heaven out of what was 600. We
know that isn't the case.
;0 Per God's word, there are
millions upon millions of angels in
Heaven, which proves something is
wrong with the book of Enoch.
Because it is such an old book it is
suspected of having been tampered with
over the centuries of time as it has
been in too many hands and at times
goes against proven mathematically,
Divinely-inspired scripture.
D: Jude 1:6 doesn't say ALL
the angels were chained up in the
abyss (Hell), so there are other
fallen angels that aren't chained
up in the abyss.
A:
That assumption comes from
Enochian influence, not
Biblical. The Bible says the
angels from Heaven which "kept
not their first estate" were
chained up and that matches other
scriptures about it. To
claim there are other "fallen
angels" not chained up in the
abyss - because they aren't
specified - is making an
assumption based on a faulty
premise originating from the book
of Enoch. The Bible in Rev.
12:3-4 specifies it was "1/3 of
the angels." The Bible doesn't
say there were other
fallen angels beyond that.
Since we don't know how many
angels there are in Heaven, we
have no way really to determine
how many 1/3rd equals. That
means the rest of the angels
remaining in Heaven were good
angels who hadn't sinned. To
claim that some of the bad angels
were sent to Hell while the other
bad angels were allowed to remain
in Heaven, or were left to roam
freely to cause more havoc on
Earth, is non-sensical.
un-Biblical and makes God look
unjust - which we know He isn't.
Revelation
12:3-4 and 7 occurred back between
Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.
Regarding Rev. 12:3-4, "And
his tail drew the third part
of the stars of heaven." The bad angels were cast
out at that time with Satan (the
dragon) and proceeded to destroy
the Earth which is why God had to
recreate it and why He told Adam
and Eve to "replenish
the Earth."
Satan's access to Heaven will be
cut off at some point before the
coming Tribulation period which is
what the rest of the verses
address.
It
should be noted that Rev. 12:13
doesn't mention angels helping
him (the dragon) go after the
woman. Presumably
because the 1/3rd "fallen angels"
had already been cast into Hell
back at Creation. It doesn't
indicate there are any more than
1/3rd "fallen angels" nor does it
indicate they will be released
prior to Judgment Day.
D:
The
Bible verses in Genesis
1:1-2 do not state nor back
up your statement that "The fallen
angels, with Satan's help,
were powerful enough to
destroy God's first
creation."
A:
The
concept exists. Genesis 1:1 says
"In the
beginning God created
the heavens and the
Earth." Then in Vs. 2 it
says, "and the
Earth was without
form and void
and darkness
was upon the face of
the deep..."
Now, ask
yourself, how could that
be if God had just created
heaven and the
Earth? If He had
just created a perfect,
sinless Earth and
everything else, how then
could Earth still need
creating? And why
would He go about
destroying His first
creation? He didn't,
Satan's rebellion caused
it.
Note,
it also says in vs. 2 that
there was "darkness."
When God created Earth
initially, one of the
first things God spoke
into being was
"light." "And God
said, 'Let there be
light.'"
In Vs. 2 the Earth still
needed creating since it
was "in
darkness, without
form and void.." =
without
light. Further evidence He
had to recreate it is
because He told Adam and
Eve to "replenish
the Earth," thus
indicating something
was here before
that needed to be
replenished.
D:
The "star gods" could very well have
been "the fallen angels" who weren't
chained up in the abyss (Hell)
because the angels were called
morning stars who sang together when
the foundation of the earth was laid
according to Job 38:6-7, and Jesus
calls angels "stars" in Rev.
1:20. These fallen angels
(morning stars) could have been
worshipped as gods with supernatural
powers.
A:
The first statement above about the
fallen angels being "star gods" is
based on an incorrect assumption
that 'some of the fallen angels
weren't chained up.' I have
addressed that misconception.
Men's worship of aliens as gods
occurred after
Creation. There were no fallen
angels before Creation and no humans
to worship fallen angels.
Satan and his angellic rebellion
didn't occur until later.
Satan's "fallen angels" episode
occurred after God created
everything in Genesis 1:1 because
Genesis 1:2 indicates something had
then occurred to make the Earth to
be without form and void with
darkness covering everything.
God
told Dr. Eby during his NDE that
when He cast Satan out of Heaven
with 1/3rd of the angels, Satan had
"a hissy fit" at being cast down so
fast (like lightning) and suddenly
that he and his fallen angels, in
retaliation, went about destroying
everything God had created on Earth.
That's the kind of NDE I can believe
because when Dr. Eby fell from his
porch onto a fence below, all the
blood in his body drained out.
He was absolutely dead upon arrival
later at a hospital ("for
the life of the flesh is in
the blood"/Lev. 17:11 & 14).
He found himself in Heaven with God
and they had a long conversation
about many things, all of which are
proven by scripture.
When
God sent Dr. Eby back to Earth, He
restored his blood and healed him
over a period of days, spending time
reconstructing damaged portions of
his body, during which time He
taught Dr. Eby the necessity to
praise Him daily for his healing if
he wanted to keep it. The
medical records proved his
story. That doesn't sound like
a story Satan would come up with
because he wouldn't encourage anyone
to praise God, much less on a daily
basis. His whole controversy
with God is over praise/worship; he
wants it all for himself.
Amos 5:26, "But
ye have borne the tabernacle
of your Moloch and Chiun
your images, the star of
your god, which ye made to
yourselves." Some aliens
(i.e., most notably the greys) tell
people that they (the greys) are
gods, that they created/seeded us
from somewhere else. This big
half-lie could be why some people
worship aliens as "gods."
However, the truth is that through
their hybridization programs the
aliens are merely tampering with
what God already created.
Now
some humans have been made into
hybrids by aliens, but not all
are. This could be another
reason why God sent the Great Flood;
to keep His original creation
pure. However, we are at that
danger point again today because our
government admits millions of humans
were abducted by *aliens
in prior decades (*most
notably the greys who are slaves of
the reptillians and are seeking to
escape them by blending with humans
via hybridization of their species
with ours so the reptillians won't
recognize them) and used for
hybridization programs.
This
hybridization of humans/aliens
occurred because of an agreement
made with some bad aliens (greys) by
certain members of our military
(i.e., USAF) during Eisenhower's
time in office who were more
interested in gaining advanced
technology than having any concern
for our citizens. (Note,
Eisenhower did not authorize that
agreement and later warned us to
beware of the military/industrial
complex behind it.) Our
military admits there was no way
they could stop the greys from
exceeding the number of abductions
per year initially agreed
upon. The USAF should have
asked the aliens why they wanted to
abduct humans in the first place
before making any agreements with
them, but greed won over sanity.
The
military/industrial complex was made
up of many of Hitler's scientists
brought over to the US after WW2 in
Operation Paperclip and put to
work. Hitler's scientists
already had a satellite operating in
space, so they were anxious to
continue their space programs and
desired more alien technological
knowledge for that purpose.
D:
I don't see
how you could have seen evidence
of giants existing before God
recreated everything.
A:
The evidence is from geological
records/archaeological studies that
have been done; i.e., ancient giant
bones unearthed and tested for age
and evidence that Earth existed more
than 6,000 years ago. We don't
know how much time existed between
Gen. 1:1 and vs. 2. Geologists
can only go by what they find in
their studies that indicate Earth
has existed much longer than 6,000
years. The most recent
re-creation by God makes it appear
younger, but Earth's actual age is
much longer, per the geologic
records. Just as the age of
trees, like the tall redwoods, can
be determined by how many rings
there are in the center of the bark,
so there are ways to determine
Earth's age geologically through the
strata of the Earth, etc.
D:
As for your
statement, "The Bible says the giants were on
the Earth before the sons of God
came [Gen. 6:4] "and after that when the sons of
God came," it
is not true. That Bible
verse in Gen. 6:4 is referring
back to the sons of God in Gen.
6:2 who took wives from the
daughters of men.
A:
The view expressed above is
derived from Enochian confusion
and that's why it appears to you
as not being true. The
following will help settle the
confusion:
Genesis 6:2, "That
the sons of God saw the
daughters of men that
they were fair; and they
took them wives of all
which they chose."
Genesis 6: 4 "There were
giants in the earth in
those days; and also
after that,
when the sons of God
came in unto the
daughters of men,.."
1)
Verse 4 is an
elaboration
of verse 2, as
stated, however,
2) Verse 4 gives
us the sequence
of events stating the giants
were here before the
"sons of God" came; and
most importantly,
3)
Verse 4 also distinguishes
between "giants"
and the "sons of
God;"
4) and makes it clear
that the giants were not part
of the "sons of God" because
they existed before "the sons of God
came."
It proves they aren't
one and the same as was backed
up by a Jewish scholar's
research. The
"sons of God"
were not
giants, nor did they create
giants and the "sons of God"
are "heirs to
salvation" (John 1:12)
which giants aren't as they
are off-world in origin
(extra-terrestrials).
This off-world
connection is indicated by
reports from natives of giants
and their activities with
alien craft seen coming and
going out of caves today in
the Solomon Islands where they
live and from within our
planet, as well as, similar
locations around the
world. A search online
will bring up documentation on
that.
Again, it comes down to
a 'blood
of Jesus' issue
(John
1:12) and
who the "sons
of God"
are that is at the heart of this
controversy which,
unfortunately, most book
authors today completely
miss. The 'blood of Jesus' resolves
any confusion.