Chance (13 Aug 2023)
"Are the Resurrection and Rapture Two Different Events?   Will the Resurrection of the Dead be THE Sign Before the Rapture?"


 
Hello John and Doves,
 
Recently I've written to Doves about the Rapture - I pondered 'would the Believers be seen going up into 'the clouds' by the Left Behind'?  Would this event be witnessed?  I referred to Jesus' ascension - the onlookers watched Him ascend up into the clouds. 
 
Also, I made the point that we aren't 'caught away' in the' blink of an eye' - we are changed in the blink of an eye.  From mortal to immortal. So it seems we don't just 'disappear suddenly'. ??
 
Also, there were people in the Bible who were resurrected from the dead and seen later - Jesus for one; and resurrected saints were seen in Jerusalem (Matthew 27:52, 53 ("And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the Saints which slept arose and came out of the graves after His resurrection and went into the Holy City and appeared unto many." I bet that they were "caught up' at some point later).  And the Two Witnesses of The Revelation - their rising from the dead is witnessed and their ascension is witnessed..."And after three and a half days ...they stood upon their feet."  Rev 11:11  "And they went up to heaven in a cloud as their enemies watched them."  Rev 11:12
 
So witnessing the resurrection from the dead and the 'catching away' into a cloud is not new in the Bible.  And it shouldn't be new to us either - because we've read about these events over and over involving many different people. One day, will these events - the resurrection of the dead and the "catching away" into a cloud - be witnessed in our life time?  I certainly believe so!
 
In the July edition of the Prophecy Watcher magazine, there is an article by Jeff Van Hatten titled:  "Parallels of Prophetic Significance".  www.prophecywatchers.com
 
For this article, PW put out a bit of a disclaimer:  "This article will challenge some traditional viewpoints, but we must be able to always challenge our own presuppositions and continue to examine whether our beliefs are rooted in the Scripture alone."  But, based on what I wrote above, I don't think this will be so far out of many people's 'comfort zone' as PW may think.
 
The big part of the article that interested me was about the 'resurrection of the dead' and the 'catching away' as being two separate events.
 
In 1 Thessalonian 4:16, 17:  we are told that "the dead in Christ will rise first".  Then, "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord....  So it's a two-step process.  Two separate events.
 
We have the resurrection of the dead and we have the catching up of the recently resurrected dead and the living - up into the clouds.
 
In this article, Jeff wrote about the signs pointing to His return:  "...Israel back in the land, many coming in His name, famines, pestilences, wars and rumors of wars, signs in the heavens and great earthquakes in various places, just to name a few signs.  But these warnings came with a caveat:  "but the end will not follow immediately," and "don't be deceived."   All of these signs point to our "redemption."
 
Jeff believes that the Resurrection of the dead and the Rapture do not occur at the exact same time.  He believes that "The rising of the dead first will be THE final sign that the rapture is near, even if one ignores the many signs Yeshua Himself commanded us to look for as confirmation that our redemption (resurrection to living if dead/change from mortal to immortal if still living) draws near.  So the Rapture won't be a 'signless' event.
 
The Greek word used for 'first' is proton - which means, "first in time or place in any succession of things or persons."  "If you are looking for a sign that points to the rapture, this is it.  If you are looking for the Biblical timing of the Resurrection and the Rapture, this is it.  Only after meeting with the still living will both then ascend together to be with Yeshua."
 
Jeff looked at the definitions of the words used to describe "a rising from the dead."  There are several Greek words for "raise, rise, arise, resurrect" like "egeiro", "anistem" and "anastasis".  He also gives other examples.  He used the Thayer's Greek Definitions for his study.  "The pattern that we find in the text indicates that the resurrected person then appears in public; they do not instantly disappear."
 
Egeiro:  to arouse from the sleep of death, to recall the dead to life, to cause to appear, and bring before the public.  This word is used by Paul to describe Yeshua's resurrection.  1 Corinthians 15
 
Anistemi:  to rise up from the dead and cause to appear to enter into conversation or dispute with anyone.  "This comes from the word histemi:  to rise up in the presence or midst of others.  Luke 24:46, John 20:9, Acts 16:3 use this word for Yeshua's resurrection. 
 
Anastasis:  a resurrection from death.  And Paul uses it in 1 Thessalonians 4:16  (the dead in Christ "will rise" (anastesontai)
 
Jeff gives numerous examples of verses in the New Testament using these words.
 
 
Then he wrote about the various "witnessed" resurrection events in the Bible:  the daughter of Jairus; the only son of a widow from Nain, Lazarus, Dorcas/Tabitha; Eutychus; Yeshua, the Two Witnesses of The Revelation. (New Testament)
 
Also, he wrote about "witnessed" rapture events in the Bible:  Elijah's ascension; Yeshua's ascension; the Two Witnesses ascension.
 
Jeff goes on to write that, "Clearly, the statement "the rapture is an instantaneous event that happens at the same time as the resurrection of the dead ...we simply disappear" is not at all accurate according to the parallels, patterns, pictures, types and word definitions.'
 
"Yeshua clearly states that as far as dates and times or seasons are concerned, in other words, the Moedim, "the Father has fixed by His own authority."  the moedim are set appointments.
 
"Yeshua told us to watch for signs as confirmation that our redemption (resurrection to living again, if dead, or change from mortal to immortal, if still-living) was drawing near.  This succinctly negates the "sign-less rapture" teaching; the rising of the dead is the final sign pointing to the nearness of the rapture."
 
"There are over a dozen Biblical accounts of a witnessed resurrection, and three Biblical accounts of a witnessed bodily rapture....Instant disappearance rapture is NOT a fact: a witnessed resurrection and rapture IS."
 
Back in Jesus' day, resurrections from the dead were looked upon as "a good thing" - a miracle.  Something that caused the parents, family, friends to rejoice.  And praise God.  Many believed in Jesus when they saw the dead arise.  "Therefore many of the Jews who came to Mary, and saw what He had done, believed in Him."  John 11:45  Like what happened with Lazarus.  The people weren't frightened by this - they were amazed - a true miracle from God!
 
Today, when we think of rising from the dead, most people probably think of zombies, vampires, the 'undead', etc.  And there is the very popular "The Walking Dead" series and many, many zombie movies and other series like "Z Nation".  Zombie movies are still being made - they are quite popular. 
 
The zombies are seen as bad things, evil - something to be feared and killed, if possible. They are usually infected with 'something'.  Is this the  perception of 'resurrection of the dead' that satan wants humans to have?  When the resurrection happens before the rapture, is that what people will be told, it's zombies?  Be afraid of them.  They are the undead.  This would explain Hollywood's 'fascination' with zombie movies.  And why this topic is forever being reproduced in movies.  Everyone knows about the zombies.
 
"After Covid-19, the thought of a widespread pandemic that turns people into zombies is certainly plucked from the deepest corners of our most terrifying nightmares."
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But what about an 'infection' that causes the dead bodies to rise up?  And some cultures like in the U.S. embalm the dead bodies and 'they look like they are sleeping'...what if those people rise from the dead?  What will family/friends who knew them think?  What will the main stream media say?  They might already have a script ready to go!  Many people will not turn to God, especially if the media is directing them to the federal government, the military, the CDC or Dr. Fauci for an explanation and help.
 
"However, many today find miracles difficult to believe - especially the idea of someone dead suddenly being alive."
Did Jesus Really Rise From The Dead? Evidence of The Resurrection | Cru
 
Nothing happens by coincidence. 
 
I think it would be absolutely amazing to actually see the Saints resurrected before the Rapture!  Just imagine the surprise of those visiting a graveyard when some of the graves burst open.  In 1 Thessalonians 4:16 the dead in Christ rise first - how long will these people be 'up and about' before the 'catching away'?  Minutes, hours, days?  "After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air."  Will there be any kind of 'reunion' with these Saints and their families/friends before they go to be with the Lord?  Are we 'caught up together' with family, friends?  Are these events pretty close together?
 
Jeff's dividing up these two events has exposed the 'narratives' for both - the resurrection of the dead and the 'catching away' of the newly resurrected and living.  The resurrection of the dead has a primary role in the Christian belief.  Christians believe that Jesus was resurrected from the dead.  And one day, there will be resurrection events.
 
Will living Believers see the resurrection of the Believing dead before the 'catching away"?  I actually hope so.  That would really be something to actually see a Biblical resurrection!  A major cornerstone of our Faith!
 
So I'd guess that the whole zombie genre was planned a long time ago to "direct the narrative" on the resurrection of the Saints before the rapture.  Just like the alien/UFO 'environment' was created to explain away the Rapture.  Satan then has an explanation for both events!  How handy!
 
(There is much more in the article than what I presented here.)
 
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem!
 
Maranatha!
 
Chance