Hi john and doves.

My hcsb bible makes this link.

Interesting.

After this I looked, and there in heaven was an open door. The first voice that I had heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, ....
Revelation 4:1 HCSB

(2 witnesses)

Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” They went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies watched them.
Revelation 11:12 HCSB