Gino (23 Aug 2020)
"Are any of these things correct?"


There was a recent text conversation regarding prophecy.
Are any of these things correct?
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Rev 13- make war with saints and overcome them
Does not sound like “being kept from evil” to me.
Overcome is killed not kept. 
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they'll die like Stephen
where the enemy meant it for evil
but Jesus turned it for good
with Stephen, it may have begun working on Saul's heart, long before heading to Damascus
but in the tribulation, it may affect many lost people,
like the crowds watching the Christians being burnt at the stake at Smithfield in London,
many were affected, and later, I believe, got saved themselves
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Rev 14, it looks as if the 144000 are the first saved, i.e., firstfruits of the Tribulation.
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at that point they are in heaven
did they also get raptured
   (like the two witnesses)
or were they martyred?
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Not sure but called firstfruits, I assume of that particular dispensation wouldn’t you?
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yes
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I would say martyred for sure
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Following chapter 13
that would make the most sense
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Totally committed to Christ and died for their faith
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first martyrs after the image of the beast causes non-worshippers to be put to death?
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I can see that
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They are probably quadruply hated
1 ) They're Hebrew male virgins
2) Protected from locust stingers
3) They believe in Jesus
4) Won't worship beast or image
can see why they might go 1st
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14 seems to end at Armageddon also.
Similar to 6 ending with Joel’s prophesy of God’s wrath.
Rev 11. Kingdoms of world become kingdoms of our Lord
Rev 10 should be time no longer. 
I am thinking in terms of relative to the end of the 7 years.
Maybe I am overthinking it 
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