Charles, You had written, "I believe Calvin and Arminius both have some truth." That is an amazing thought!!! The more I think about that statement, the more that I agree with it. T: The LORD is the author and finisher, yet we have the capacity to desire to be saved. U: From the perspective of eternity, the LORD unconditionally elects us; yet from the perspective of time, we make a freewill choice. L: From eternity's perspective, there is only a set number saved, which number is known looking back over time from, say the new Jerusalem; yet, from the perspective of time, it is open ended to "whosoever will" I: From eternity's perspective, the LORD works out all things according to his will; yet from the perspective of time, we can resist the conviction of the Holy Ghost: P: From eternity's perspective, the LORD keeps us and seals us because if the infinite and eternal efficacy of the blood if Jesus; yet, what did Demas do? By the way, do you know how Kenneth is doing (the Kenneth that used to co-host the Tribulation-Now program)? The LORD bless you