Steve Coerper (6 Aug 2017)
"Re: No earth-changing
event in July--Where does this leave us on God's timel..."
Dear Ron -
The term "great tribulation" occurs only three times in
scripture: Matthew 24:21, Revelation 2:22, and Revelation
7:14. Interestingly, Luke 21:20-24 describes the same events
as Matthew 24:15-22 but does not use the term "great
tribulation." Instead, Luke refers to the event as "days of
vengeance." There may be merit to the idea that Matthew is
speaking of the last days and Luke was referring to AD 70.
That's another discussion, I suppose.
The point is that by comparing the three uses of "great
tribulation" and discarding unwarranted inferences and
presuppositions, it becomes clear that Matthew and John are
talking about different events. By attempting to conflate,
absurdity quickly emerges.
The "great tribulation" of Matthew is a local event. Jesus
says "great tribulation" will be preceded by the Abomination of
Desolation and he admonishes those in Judea to flee. I think
it's totally unwarranted to suggest that "those in Judea" could be
synonymous with "a great multitude which no one could number, of
all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues" in Rev. 7.
Further, those who heed Jesus' warning in Matthew - those who obey
Him - will be preserved. They will remain alive.
The rest (or almost all of the rest) will presumably die in the
"great tribulation" that follows. QUESTION: why would
those who disregarded Jesus' words and perished be seen as having
"washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb"
and be found in heaven?
Revelation 2:22 has the only other mention of the term
"great tribulation." One might think that if the "great
tribulation" were really the centerpiece of the eschaton, the term
would appear more often. In this final passage, we see
another local problem, this time in Thyatira. There is no
suggestion that this maps to the final seven years before the
Millennium. Rather, there is a sexually immoral woman.
Some are committing adultery with her. These are threatened
with "great tribulation" unless they repent. QUESTION:
if they refused to repent and went into "great tribulation," on
what basis would we expect to see them before the Throne in
Revelation 7:9?
With one possible exception that I've found, "tribulation" and
"wrath" are not the same. We are not appointed to wrath, but
tribulation is to be expected. Acts 14:22 and Romans 5:3
come to mind. When a farmer harvests his wheat, he fully
expects that the kernels will have husks on them, so he uses a
"tribulum" to make the wheat fit for use. He isn't either
angry or surprised at this state of affairs. Similarly, we
all have a "husk" of sorts - a corrupt core of things that are
unfit for Kingdom use. We don't naturally have perseverance,
Godly character, or hope. God engenders these in us through
tribulation. So to say we're "exempt" from tribulation is a
fairly serious error. We should expect and embrace it.
My conclusion is that the "great tribulation" mentioned in
Revelation 7 is the general tribulation that Christians have
endured since Pentecost. It is "great" because it covered a
long period of time. The "great tribulation" of Matthew 24
is a local event. It is "great" because it is intense.
It may be the Magog invasion, but it does not last 3 1/2
years and it is not global. The "great tribulation" in
Revelation 2 may not have happened. It's a threat of
a trip to God's woodshed for a Divine butt-spanking, predicated on
a refusal to repent. If the miscreants in Thyatira who were
committing adultery with Jezebel took God's warning to heart and
repented, they would avoid the punishment. Again, nothing
here about global unpleasantness or several years of
distress. There is no 3 1/2 year period of "great
tribulation" in Scripture.
Best