Dear Brother Gerry, Regarding your admonition yesterday: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2012/gerrya820.htm I am in agreement with you that something may definately be brewing up in the heavens. As I mentioned when I replied to your same post on RITAN, I am a little shy about getting fooled again since the same types of alarms went up last year about Elenin and alot of us were "burned" on that one so to speak. However I have also heard a couple of other possibilities regarding Elenin; one that it was a psyop for the governments to see how the masses would react if enough information leaked out and they thought a celestial object posed some threat. And Two that Elenin was actually a satellite object which rotates around the Nibiru/planet X object and precedes the actual object by about 1 yr, a harbinger of sorts. In other words, Elenin reached perigee at Sept 11, 2011, the real deal can be expected at perigee around the same date in 2012. Both theories lead to the acronym Elenin, Extinction Level Event, Nibiru Is Near. In any event, I believe there is enough eveidence to suggest it could be a real possibility this time. As for those who can't see how this thing could be the sixth seal I will also offer two different possibilities. The first is that the first 5 seals have been opened in the spiritual already - the horses are "saddled up" the four horsemen are "mounted up" and ready to ride, they just haven't left the barn yet so to speak. The second theory is similar to the first - when the seals are opened and manifest in the physical realm there will be rapid fire succession, and here is my possible scenario - perhaps a rapture on Rosh Hashanna, the chaos to follow will be matched by a takeover of the antichrist and economic collapse at the same time, followed by war in the middle east and widespread death, as well as the cries of the martyrs. All of this could happen in the 10 days of awe in between the rapture event (Rosh Hashanna?) and the planet X event/sixth seal on Yom Kippur, Sept 26? This timeline seems to make sense and Scott on RITAN has done much great research concerning the great earthquake/ the 188 day cycle/nibiru/ and Sept 26 day of atonement. Of course I cannot be dogmatic about any of this but it seems to make sense to me and in my heart I think/hope/pray - this Rosh Hashanna is it. For my part I have begun fasting and have called all watchers to participate in any way they are able. http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2012/navi817.htm Blessings to you my brother, Baruch HaBa B'Shem YHVH Maranatha! Remnant Navi