Hello, John and Doves,

 

Here is what we need to consider:

    "And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea."

Revelation 20:8  KJV

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G1136&t=KJV

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G3098&t=KJV

 

 

So, "Gog and Magog" could be translated, "mountain and overtopping."

 

In this context, John the Revelator could be divinely referring to "Turkey and parts north," all with respect to Israel, the center of the Earth.

A few references:

http://www.icr.org/article/50/

http://www.levitt.com/essays/dh.html

http://www.bible-history.com/geography/israel_the_center_of_the_world.html

[culled from:  http://www.bing.com/search?q=Israel+is+the+center+of+the+Earth&src=IE-SearchBox&Form=IE8SRC.]

 

In this sc, "Gog" could be a reference to the king of the land whose borders enclose the actual mountain where Noah landed the Ark.  In that case, the overtopping of the king would be an emperor.

 

Likewise, another layer of meaning may well be that "Gog and Magog" both refer to the only mountain in the world that has a covering of black that signifies where the LORD passed by Moses, whom He hid in the cleft of the rock. [Exodus 33:22]   This puts the focus on Jabal al Lawz.

http://www.messianic-literary.com/mt_sinai.htm

 

Each layer of meaning rebounds to our day as well.  See:  http://biblez.com/search.php?q=gog+and+magog

and http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=gog+magog&t=KJV

It is quite possible that Ezekiel 38:2 will be fulfilled both before and after the thousand year reign of Yeshua Ha Mashiach [Revelation 20 KJV]

 

 

Conclusion:  "Gog and Magog" most definitely refer to Turkey and parts north.  "Gog and Magog" also refer together to Jabal al Lawz.

 

Put that all together, and you get a jambalaya.  http://www.ehow.com/how_28_make-jambalaya.html

and http://www.bing.com/search?q=jambalaya+food+network+justin+wilson&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=jambalaya+food+network+justin+wilson&sc=0-29&sp=-1&sk=

 

W^5 [Which was what we wanted]  Soup for the hungry watchman on the wall.

 

 

~Blessings,

Mike C.

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Susan B (31 July 2012)
"To all Doves re Magog"

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Dear Dove family
Today I took a nap and woke up saying "oh, so that's the answer". I had a "thinking dream" that was telling me people have been misguided into thinking Magog is Russia when it is Turkey.

I'm praying about this but wanted some input. Turkey also lies to the north and is largely Islamic. They're a NATO member and they are growing in power. They were once the seat of the Ottoman Empire.

I've been wondering about Putin lately as he seems to have the best grip on what's actually going on and wonder if he's not the enemy at all? I know he's a devout Christian who attends church each Sunday- Russian orthodox I would suppose. Have we been misled into thinking Russia are "the bad guys"?

Any insight or input appreciated.
God bless,
Susan in Aussie land

 

 

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