From: Marilyn Agee
> You stated you had been praying to see
an angel.
Lilly star said, " I've been asking God if I could see an
angel," not me. I have never in my whole life even thought of
doing that.
Then in your letter
> you state you saw your husband who had
passed away in Dec of 2011. I am > sorry for your loss.
Thanks for your compassion.
I know what I saw. I saw Ed, and he looked like he did when he
was 33, not 87, his age when he died. He spoke with his normal
voice. Whether it was actually him in his celestial body or a
vision, I don't know. Whatever, he answered my questions then
walked through the wall.
> Never in the Bible do we read of the dead
returning to give a message to > the living.
King Saul called up Samuel by the witch of Endor after Samuel
died. Saul died because he did this, it is forbidden, but he
did it anyway. It is possible.
1Sa_25:1 says, "And Samuel died."
1Sa 28:6-19 says, "And when Saul enquired of the LORD, the
LORD answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by
prophets. 7 Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a
woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and
enquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, there is
a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor. 8 And Saul
disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and he went, and
two men with him, and they came to the woman by night: and he
said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and
bring me him up, whom I shall name unto thee. 9 And the
woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done,
how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the
wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare
for my life, to cause me to die? 10 And Saul sware to her by
the LORD, saying, As the LORD liveth, there shall no
punishment happen to thee for this thing. 11 Then said
the woman, WHOM SHALL I BRING UP UNTO THEE? And he said, BRING
ME UP SAMUEL. 12 And when THE WOMAN SAW SAMUEL, she
cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying,
Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul. 13 And the
king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And
the woman said unto Saul, I SAW GODS ASCENDING OUT OF THE
EARTH. 14 And he said unto her, What form is he of? And
she said, AN OLD MAN COMETH UP; and he is covered with a
mantle. And Saul perceived that IT WAS SAMUEL, and he stooped
with his face to the ground, and bowed himself. 15 And
SAMUEL SAID TO SAUL, WHY HAST THOU DISQUIETED ME, TO BRING ME
UP? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the
Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me,
and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams:
therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto
me what I shall do. 16 Then said Samuel, Wherefore then
dost thou ask of me, seeing the LORD is departed from thee,
and is become thine enemy? 17 And the LORD hath done to
him, as he spake by me: for the LORD hath rent the kingdom out
of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour, even to David:
18 Because thou obeyedst not the voice of the LORD, nor
executedst his fierce wrath upon Amalek, therefore hath the
LORD done this thing unto thee this day. 19 Moreover the
LORD will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the
Philistines: and TO MORROW SHALT THOU AND THY SONS BE WITH ME:
the LORD also shall deliver the host of Israel into the hand
of the Philistines.
Saul should not have gone to the witch of Endor and had her
call up Samuel. Because he did, he and his 3 sons died.
1Sa 31:8 And it came to pass on the morrow, when the
Philistines came to strip the slain, that they found SAUL AND
HIS THREE SONS FALLEN IN MOUNT GILBOA."
> Believers never; after death, become angels !
I agree. Men are men; and angels are angels. However, on April
2, 2012, when I asked Ed "Are there female angels in Heaven?"
he said, "Yes."
They are not believers from among mankind, they were created
as angels.
Since Ed was always trustworthy, I believe him. Since he had
been in Heaven three months, ever since the morning of Dec 27,
2011, I figured that he should know.
> There are gardian angels who watch over us,
but never do they take on > the appearance of the dead.
Maybe not the appearance of the dead, but they sometimes do
take on the appearance of the living. Gabriel seems to have
appeared as a man to Vincent Tan. John Tng can probably tell
you where that information can be found on his Five Doves site
if you have never read it.
> Demonic spirits have been around from before
the Flood, and know all > things about our family members
throughout the generations. These will > take on the
appearance of the dead in order to gain an advantage in our
> lives through our sorrow, and loss. Praying to see an
angel could have > been an open door for the evil spirits
to have access to your thoughts > and dreams.
I didn't pray to see an angel.
I didn't pray to see Ed, either, but it happened. I was
shocked to see him striding into the room with that ear to ear
grin on his face. His hair was no longer gray, he was no
longer bedfast, he didn't even use his walker.
From my memory, he could have been 30 or 33, so I
asked him which. He said,
"33." I believe him. I think we will all end up looking like
we did at 33. I got out the picture albums, and found a
picture when he was 32. That is what he looked like when I saw
him April 2. His weight was normal. Both of us had been too
thin before that and kept gaining weight after that.
> We as believers must test the spirits. We do
this by applying what is > said by these spirits against
the word of God.
> There are no Female angels.
I think there are. We will know before very long.
> God said " you were not created to have
wives, you were eternal living > the eternal life and had
need for nothing "
I searched the KJV for "you were eternal" with eSword without
finding your quote.
I also searched for the words" NOT" and "CREATED" without
finding your quote. The verses I found are listed below. Where
does the Bible say what you "quoted"?
We should be careful how we quote the Bible. Rev 22:18 says,
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the
prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things,
God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this
book".
Isa_40:26 says, "Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who
hath CREATED these things, that bringeth out their host by
number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his
might, for that he is strong in power; NOT one faileth."
Isa_43:1 says, "But now thus saith the LORD that CREATED thee,
O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear NOT: for I
have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art
mine."
Isa_45:18 says, "For thus saith the LORD that CREATED
the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he
hath established it, he created it NOT in vain, he formed it
to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else."
Isa_48:7 says, "They are CREATED now, and NOT from the
beginning; even before the day when thou heardest them NOT;
lest thou shouldest say, Behold, I knew them."
Mal_2:10 says, "Have we NOT all one father? hath not one
God CREATED us? why do we deal treacherously every man against
his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?"
Mar_13:19 says, "For in those days shall be affliction, such
as was NOT from the beginning of the creation which God
CREATED unto this time, neither shall be".
> [We will Never be like the angels.Never]
I believe what Jesus said:
In Mat 22:29,30, "Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do
err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in
the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in
marriage, but are AS THE ANGELS OF GOD IN HEAVEN."
In Mar 12:24,25, "Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not
therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the
power of God? 25 For when they shall rise from the dead,
they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are AS THE
ANGELS WHICH ARE IN HEAVEN."
> The only females in heaven are the
souls of the righteous women who are > passed from their
bodies and in the presence of The Lord, and await as > we
do for Jesus to call us up at the Rapture.
The sons of God who took wives from among mankind were
physically able to beget children, the giants.
Gen 6:4 says, "There were giants in the earth in those days;
and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the
daughters of men, and they bare children to them".
Therefore, it makes sense to me that there were male
counterparts, female angels.
> The Lord tells us there is NO sorrow there.
We will not be mindfull of a > husband or our children as
we are mindful of them here on the earth.
> All things are passed away, behold all things are
become new. We will > know them when we get there, but we
will not have the same feelings as > we do now. Our
husbands and wives are not something we will consider >
there. JESUS will be the center, and our all in all. We will
be married > to Him, and He is our focus.
Males are part of the Bride of Christ. Even the 144,000
Israelites are called virgins in Rev 14:1-5. That is different
from a man and wife here.
I don't think we will lose anything stored in our brains. Ed
and I honored God when we were together 65 years here, and we
will still honor God in Heaven.
When Ed was on board a ship coming home from Japan after WW
II, he prayed to God for a Christian wife. The Lord chose me
for him, and had to pull off some miracles so we would meet
each other.
Until December in my freshman year in High School, I was
raised in Indiana. Ed was raised in Kingsport, Tennessee. My
Dad was transferred from Vigo Ordinance, Terre Haute, IN, to
Holston Ordinance Works, Kingsport, TN. Ed and I went to the
same High School for half a year in Kingsport, but didn't know
each other then. I was a freshman and new in town. He was a
senior and was born there. He was drafted and spent 32 months
in the army. We met after he was discharged. My family had
moved out of town to Staff Quarters on Holston Ordinance
Works. His family had moved to Staff Quarters near where we
lived just before he got home.
We fell deeply in love with each other on our first date, July
3, 1946. That surely was the Lord's doings. Ed asked me to
marry him 3 days later, the 4th day we got together, July 6,
and I said, "Yes." I don't think either of us had said, "I
love you," yet, but we knew it, and finally put it into words
after I said, "Yes." We married the following January. The
Lord matched us up perfectly. We were always at ease with each
other right from the start. We got through 65 precious years
together without a single fight.
> Enoch tells us that while he was with the
Heavenly angels, he saw this > man in heaven, and
inquired of the angel that was with him as to who > this
Man was. Enoch said " I who am 7th from Adam and know all
men on > the earth, and I have never seen this Man. The
angel of presence with > Enoch said" This is The Word" in
Him will all the righteous dwell, for > He is
righteousness.
However, the Book of Enoch is not Scripture.
> Watching is important and is what Jesus ask
us to do, but many who are > baby christians believe on
His Name and will also go at the Rapture. Not > just
those who are watching and waiting.
I think there will be two Raptures, the First-Trump Rapture of
I Thess 4:16,17 and the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54.
It is up to Jesus to decide who is a wise virgin and who is a
foolish virgin at the time of the first Rapture.
Agape,
Marilyn Agee
mjagee@verizon.net
prophecycorner.theforeverfamily.com
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If I may I would like to respond to your letter to
Lilly...
You stated you had been praying to see an angel. Then in
your letter you state you saw your husband who had passed
away in Dec of 2011.I am sorry for your loss.
Never in the Bible do we read of the dead returning to give
a message to the living.
We as believers when we pass, are absent from the body and
present with the Lord. Those who pass and are not believers
in Christ Jesus, are absent from the body and in Hell.
Believers never; after death, become angels ! Never
Some in the Catholic faith teach this, but it is an untruth.
There are gardian angels who watch over us, but never do
they take on the appearance of the dead.
Demonic spirits have been around from before the Flood, and
know all things about our family members throughout the
generations. These will take on the appearance of the dead
in order to gain an advantage in our lives through our
sorrow, and loss. Praying to see an angel could have been an
open door for the evil spirits to have access to your
thoughts and dreams.
We as believers must test the spirits. We do this by
applying what is said by these spirits against the word of
God.
There are no Female angels. Woman was created for man that
he would be complete in this earth and have want for
nothing. This is why God waited after He created Adam,
in order that Adam could see .... that in all of God's
creation there was not a help meet for him. And God formed
woman from the rib of Adam.
This was why The Watchers,( Gardian angels, heavenly angels,
not of the Fallen angels who fell with Lucifer in the
beginning) when they SAW the daughters of men that they were
beautiful and comely; wanted wives of their own, and made an
oath among themselves to take wives of whom they chose, and
did. Gardian angels known as Watchers spend much time among
mankind up close and personal. They for the most part remain
invisable. It is rare that they show themselves to mankind.
This alone should speak to us of their heavenly loyalty to
the Most High.
God said " you were not created to have wives, you were
eternal living the eternal life and had need for nothing "
These Watchers in Gen 6, tresspassed the commandment
of God and defiled themselves with the women and thus they
are bound and await the Lake of Fire.
The only females in heaven are the souls of the righteous
women who are passed from their bodies and in the presence
of The Lord, and await as we do for Jesus to call us up at
the Rapture.
The Lord tells us there is NO sorrow there. We will not be
mindfull of a husband or our children as we are mindful of
them here on the earth.
All things are passed away, behold all things are become
new. We will know them when we get there, but we will not
have the same feelings as we do now. Our husbands and wives
are not something we will consider there. JESUS will be the
center, and our all in all. We will be married to Him, and
He is our focus.
With love and compassion I say to you, be careful what you
allow your heart and mind to wish for, because the enemy can
use these things to deceive.
Jesus raised the dead, but they died again latter on.
Jesus is the only resurrected of the dead who NOW still
lives. He is the first fruits of the dead. He became flesh,
the flesh died on the cross, but because He was God, He was
transformed as we also will be transformed at His coming.
The dead bodies of the righteous will be raised first,
undifiled and will join their souls, and be transformed, and
we who are alive will be cought up and transformed. We will
receive a body Like His.
Scripture tells us we will be like Him. [We will Never be
like the angels.Never]
Jesus is righteousness, He who was in the beginning the Son
of man.
Man was created in the image of Jesus.( God)
Enoch tells us that while he was with the Heavenly angels,
he saw this man in heaven, and inquired of the angel that
was with him as to who this Man was. Enoch said " I who am
7th from Adam and know all men on the earth, and I have
never seen this Man. The angel of presence with Enoch said"
This is The Word" in Him will all the righteous dwell, for
He is righteousness.
What was it that Lucifer said ?
I will be like the Most High
He hates us because we are the image of God,( Jesus) and
Jesus through His sacrifice on the cross, allows us to be
Like Him.
Lucifer Hates This ! and Hates Us.
Through Jesus we have the power to overcome the wiles of the
Devil, Praise God !
Jesus overcame death, Hell and the Grave, and if we are in
Jesus, we also are overcommers.
Watching is important and is what Jesus ask us to do, but
many who are baby christians believe on His Name and will
also go at the Rapture. Not just those who are watching and
waiting.
Jesus said " all who will; Come. John 3:16 tells us that God
loves the whole world and sent His Son, that whosoever
believes in Him shall be saved. Even to them that believe on
His Name.
Watching only allows us to see that which is prophecied, so
that when we see these things come about we know the time is
near, and by seeing these things we believe.
Here is my post to Corola concerning demons and Hell and the
Lake of Fire
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2012/kml81.1.htm
Be blessed in our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ
KML
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My previous post:
Marilyn Agee (1 Aug 2012)
Re: "Lilly Star (31 July 2012)" Question about angels""
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From: Marilyn Agee
Hi:
My husband Ed, 87 years old, who died Dec 27, 2011, appeared
to me April 2, 2012. Dressed in a black suit that flowed
around his leg like a silk shirt, he walked quickly into the
bedroom grinning from ear to ear, as in the picture I posted
on my website. I couldn’t sit in my desk chair one more minute
and had plopped on the bed propped up on pillows as if
watching TV, but I hadn’t turned on the TV.
Ed came up between the dresser and bed. I asked him if he was
30 or 33. He said, “33.”
I asked if we could be together forever. He said, “Yes.” Thank
you Lord.That is what I want. That was my main concern,
because of what Jesus said about us being as the angels which
are in Heaven.
Mat_22:30 says, “For in the resurrection they neither
marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God
in heaven.”
Mar_12:25 says, “For when they shall rise from the dead,
they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the
angels which are in heaven.”
However, we were married on Earth and had become “one flesh”.
Gen_2:24 says, “Therefore shall a man leave his father
and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall
be one flesh.”
Mat_19:5,6 says, “And said, For this cause shall a man
leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and
they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more
twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together,
let not man put asunder.”
Mar_10:8 says, “And they twain shall be one flesh: so
then they are no more twain, but one flesh.”
Then I asked Ed “Are there female angels in Heaven.” He said,
“Yes.”
I asked this because R.B. Thieme taught that only male angels
are mentioned in the Bible. He thought each one was
individually created by God. Therefore, they were called sons
of God, in the masculine gender.
In the past, I had said that if I couldn’t figure out
something for myself, I would believe Thieme. He studied all
the time. He knew Greek and Hebrew.
However, in this I believe Ed. He was absolutely trustworthy
all his life. I had been with him for 65 years, and knew him
well. He had been in Heaven since Dec 27, so he should know if
there were female angels in Heaven.
After that, I asked him if he had been with his family. He
said, “Yes.”
I asked him if he had been with my family. He said, “Yes.”
I asked him if he had a piano. He said, “Yes” and walked
through the wall. He must have been in his celestial body.
Agape,
Marilyn Agee
mjagee@verizon.net
prophecycorner.theforeverfamily.com
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From: Lilly star:
Hi, thank you for your responses on my last post
about my rapture dreams:). I have been pondering this...I
truly believe that Gods angels watch over us. I've had several
experiences...one where after I got saved appeared as a light
( I was living with my bf at the time and there was a darkness
around him, he did not believe) anyways, the light said "we
need you to be strong today" it turns out, that day truly
changed my whole life...and I saw first hand the spiritual
battle we go through. Anyways, I've been asking God if I could
see an angel ...since I've read so many stories. I've kind of
given up, thinking maybe I'm just not spiritual enough? Or
maybe I would pass out from fear?..Anyways! Over the weekend
we were talking to my nephew, and he asked if there are
"female" angels. My husband immediately said no....that there
are no female angels ever mentioned in the bible. It kind of
made me feel sad. Do any of you know the answer to this? And
if there are female angels, why are they never mentioned? . I
know some of you might say, well, they have no gender. But
that's not true...as the fallen angels had to be men to mate
with the women on earth. I know Eve was created from
Adam...but in one scripture , the "created them" in His image,
implies women as well as men. Thank you for your thoughts!
Lilly star.