Jan (9 Aug 2012)
"To Barry Admundsen, Mike W, John and all Doves---On "prayer language""


 
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2012/barrya88-2.htm
 
Thanks so much, Barry, for your answer to my post.  You emphasised just what has been the richest part of my own experience--the joy of speaking in another tongue, in order to pray "as the Spirit gives utterance"....

For example:

When someone in church--or anywhere--asks for prayer, it is often an "unspoken need" 
We have little idea about that need...God , of course, already knows what this need is.
In the natural, then, we pray, asking Him to please answer that person's concern.
 
If we pray in other tongues as a prayer language, we can then pray first in English (or other 1st language :) ), then
continue to pray for them--in our prayer language-- as the Holy Spirit enables.
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Another use is when we are praying for someone intensely, and just run out of either energy or wisdom
--sometimes both!

That's when the switch to our gentle prayer language seems most precious.  We can continue to pray for a longer time,
using words we believe are known to God, but which are not understood by us
(And we are no longer striving to pray in "just the right way"--The Holy Spirit, with our permission,
of course, intercedes with us)
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Mike, I appreciate your 2nd letter (also sent to me by John--Thanks, John!). 
I don't agree with a few of your points,
but I--personally--hope we can "agree to disagree" on these?  I certainly agree with Barry on one point--
there have been some false teachings, and other abuses among our charismatic brothers and sisters...
(Greater discernment is needed at times!) 
 
Hey, I know myself, and don't want the stess of defending my position, my certainty in Him. 
(Especially when I am still recuperating from surgery   :(  
 
So, can we please just be friends in Christ?
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Don Franscisco --one of my all-time favorite Christian artists--had the best song--- "Brother of the Son
(also the title of his album)  I think you all will like this one!


http://youtu.be/yrdk4BN-GpQ
 
It has a line I often think of:

"Father, let Your Spirit grow inside me, till all that will not praise You is undone--
Help me keep my feet upon the highway, and grow to be a brother of the Son"
 
I often pray this for myself---
Lord, if there is anything in me that is not of You--that does not glorify You--then I will that this be undone in me. 
Show me, Lord, and--with your help--I will let that thing GO!
 
We are of different denominations on 5 Doves...and may not totally agree on it all.
Maybe there's a point or two all along that we're confident is of Him, but may --in fact--be something He doesn't desire in us.
 
I think that when our Lord calls us Home on that glorious Day---all in each of us that "will not praise Him" will be left behind
(And, thankfully, we won't miss it a bit!  :) )
 
God bless! 
YSIC, Jan W in AZ