Barry Amundsen (8 Aug 2012)
"Thank You Jan, and Unknown tongue not to men but to God"

Jan,
 
Thank you for your kind words and speaking in defense of God's spiritual gifts for us today.
 
 
One thing I would like to add to what I said before is this scripture regarding tongues for personal edification, (not the kind done in the church assymbly that needs an interpreter and is for the edifying of the whole body and is more rare but that done in private by the individual for personal edification which is available for us all) because I think this is where much misunderstanding and confusion comes in.
 
It is this kind Paul is talking about when he says:
 
1 Corinthians 14:
 
2.  For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
 
(Notice it is an unknown tongue not one that people speak on the street hearing the gospel in their own language.)
 
I ask those who say tongues were only for the early church for a sign to unbelievers and ceased with the original apostles, does this mean that God requires a sign? Why is this tongues directed to God and not to men?
 
The answer is that we do not know how to pray as we ought so God gives us His Holy Spirit who knows the "mind" of Christ meaning the plan (here "mind" is Olde English for "plan") that God has for our individual lives and He sees where we have gotten off track and begins to pray the mysteries of God's hidden manna in the Word before the Father on our behalf using our most unruly member of our body, our tongue when we submit it to Him, and He gives us the perfect prayer to pray that God is free to answer because it is not "amiss" but exactly what we needed to ask God for but did not know how to on our own. So the Spirit helps us when we pray in tongues. That in a nutshell is what Paul says is happening. For more on this see: