Ted Porter (30 Apr 2023)
"Re: Gino – (23 Apr 2023) my (16 Apr 2023) Response to Chance and being Premillennial"

RE: Ted Porter: 04.16.23: response to Chance (fivedoves.com)

Gino – According to the definition in Merriam-Webster I would qualify as premillennial.

Premillennialism:  The view that Christ's return will usher in a future millennium of Messianic rule mentioned in Revelation

Daniel in Chapter 9 is in urgent prayer that the 70 years of God’s judgment is over yet Daniels people are still in captivity and Jerusalem is in ruins.  Did God decide not to restore the exiles, God’s supposed chosen people, to Jerusalem?  Will Daniel’s people and Jerusalem disappear off the face of this earth?  No.  Gabriel’s message is clear.   The assurance is repeated eight fold.  Neither Daniel’s people nor Jerusalem will disappear until this earth disappears at the end of time.  God will forgive Daniel’s people not just 7 times but 70 times 7.

Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?  Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.  Matthew 18:21-22

Seventy times seven or 490 years are determined upon Daniel’s people and Jerusalem which end at eternity.  Obviously, these 490 years are not consecutive from when they were spoken or they would have been completed before Jesus Christ was even born and accordingly Jerusalem and Judah would have disappeared off the face of this earth, maybe not at 70 but 70 times 7 years.

But this did not happen just as Jesus Christ forgives us figurately 70 times 7 but literally much more.  There are times not determined upon Daniel’s people and Jerusalem.  For these 70 weeks/490 years, did not begin in 604 BC when Daniel was taken to Babylon nor when Gabriel gave Daniel the prophecy around 534 BC, 70 years later.

The 70 weeks are broken in Scripture into three segments of time, 62, 7, and 1 week.  Well, 62 and 7 anyway.  The one week could be technically considered inferred by what is left from 70.

There are those who would combine all these segments of time together so Daniel’s people and Jerusalem would disappear ove 2000 years ago.  There are others that after combining these distinct segments would then break off the last half a week when scripture doesn’t have any such distict segment listed.

What makes sense to me is the 62 weeks or 434 years began at the command of Nehemiah, not a goyim uninvested in BUILDING Jerusalem for the tribes of Benjamin, Levi, and Judah.  This command was given in or around 433 BC to build Jerusalem, not just the wall which was earlier, when Nehemiah had to leave for a time as governor of Judea.

What also makes sense to me is these 434 years are 360 day years which brings us to 427.8 years later at the conception of Jesus Christ, Messiah, in 5 BC.  I also believe what follows is the 2 times left for the Gentiles, the 2,000 360 day years or 1,971.3 solar years bringing us to exactly June 7, 1967.  The 7 weeks or 49 years began at the command of Mosh Dayan, not a goyim uninvested in RESTORING Jerusalem to the tribes of Benjamin, Levi, and Judah, to restore Jerusalem to Israel as sovereign ruler over Jerusalem.

Counting 49 360-day years from June 7, 1967 brings us to exactly September 23, 2015, Yom Kippur, Sabbath of Sabbaths, the most Holy day in the year, the head of the year.  At least two of us had noticed this and posted about it on Five Doves back in 2003.  At least two of us thought this signaled that Jesus Christ would be anointed again, but this time as Prince of this world, not just Prince of Heaven, ushering in the millennium.  Unfortunately, this second anointing spoken of in Daniels 70 weeks turned out to be on the exact day appointed for a second Messiah, a second Christ, a substitute christ, to the point, the antichrist. 

A proper anointing requires someone greater to anoint the one being anointed.  On the day appointed for the anointing, September 23, 2015, sure enough, the President of the United States appeared with the one person considered greater than himself in his hierarchy with the ability to anoint him, namely the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church.  Interestingly enough, the President of China appeared with him in Washington DC the next day.

If this began the time of Jacob’s trouble we would have 21 years until the Millennium starts in 2036.  Either way its bad but I’m thinking instead that the 21 years started either on January 20, 2009 or Oct 29, 2008 and will end the same time 21 years later on or before January, 2030 depending on how these years are counted.  If the pattern holds, Jesus Christ could descend as He ascended 40 days after Passover and would reign 1,000 years.  With the earlier date and 360 day years the 21 years could be up as early as July 11, 2029.

After the millennium there will be a rebellion led by the serpent after he is loosed according to the Bible.  This rebellion must be during the last seven years of the 70 weeks which starts after the millennium so the 70 weeks can last till the end of time.  Measured in 360 day years, first 62 weeks to conception of messiah.  Then 2,000 years till the times of the Gentiles are over.  Then 7 weeks to anointing by pope of antimessiah.  Then 66% of the 3 week reign to go till reign of antimessiah is over.  Then 1,000 years for Messiah to reign.  Then 1 week of serpent led rebellion.  Then Judgment day and eternity.

This timeline meets the definition of being premillennial for Jesus Christ to return and usher in His Messianic rule for 1,000 years.

 

Shalom,

Ted