Donna,

Thank you for searching out and sending that information regarding the earth and the sun!

btw - for Christians today, believing in a six day creation and a young earth, against the vast, vast majority of the world believing in evolution, is increasingly painful.

The thought that some people could defiantly go against accepted science, simply because of the words in an ancient book, is super offensive to many these days.

Before Darwin's theory led to a worldwide evolutionary movement, a similar shaming of Christians by accepted science, was in regard to the earth and the sun.

An ex-slave, turned preacher, and quite well known, whom many loved to hear, had his defining moment, regarding this.

Many gathered to hear, because they were told that he was going to proclaim that he believes the Bible rather than science.

They couldn't consider that such a popular preacher could actually believe that the sun moves around the earth, simply because the Bible says so.

They all "knew" that science had completely repudiated the claims of scripture, proving beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the earth rotated on its axis and also orbited the sun.

To them, science was again shown to be very advanced, progressive and enlightened in this area, where it showed the Bible to be ancient superstition.

The preacher was John Jasper, and the sermon was, "The sun do move", in 1878.

Many Christians are terrified to be identified with "bronze age" type thinking, that they actually still believe in a six day creation.

150 years ago, they were terrified to be identified with similar thinking, that the sun moved around the earth.

Can the fear of man be faced and overcome, simply by believing words written thousands of years ago?

Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

The very words of contention, regarding the earth and sun, will still be here, after the current earth and sun will not be.

Will there be rewards at the judgment seat of Christ for those of us who believed our school teachers, rather than the words of scripture literally?

Will Jesus rebuke us for being so naive as to take his word literally, when "science has so elegantly disproved it"?

Or will Jesus actually be pleased with some who were willing to believe his word, when the entire planet believed differently, like regarding evolution?

I can go to a grade school text book to find the claim that the earth daily rotates on its axis and annually orbits the sun.

However, I've never seen where someone has clearly shown from the scriptures, the same thing about the earth's daily rotation and annual orbit.

I've been told that the LORD couldn't speak to the people back then, like he can with us today, because of our increased scientific knowledge.

Except his ways are always above our ways, like the heavens are above the earth.

We are not much different from people a few thousand years ago, except that we tend to be more arrogant regarding what we know about science.

What is the difference between true science, and science falsely so called?

I Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Dr Fauci referred to himself as science - that can't be the good kind of science.

Atomic science may have brought us power plants (that sometimes can leak), but it primarily has brought nuclear weapons into the world - again, not the best kind of science.

I have believed that the following:

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Shows the earth to be round, but not that it teaches that the earth orbits the sun.

When people try to say things like, "In the original Hebrew, it means the circular path of the earth around the sun", that can't be right.

Because, the Hebrews didn't even think like that, then, and not until, at least, the time of Galileo, many years later.

As you can see, this subject has troubled me for a number of years.

I appreciate your help and friendship, over different things I have written, and for not dismissing me as a nut-job  - thank you, Donna, for that.

Even when you debated me over some things that you clearly believed were laid out in the scriptures differently than something I wrote - and you were right to do so - good for you.