Donna,

Thanks for the excellent feedback, it's obvious that you are very familiar with end times scripture. http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2021/donnad44-4.htm

Let me start by saying that you are 100% correct in your response to me concerning the 12 tribes occupying the land you described in the Middle East during the millennium period. And I agree..... no 1500 square mile structure sits upon that land during the millennium period. But what my recent posts, my focus was on...... is the tribulation period. More specifically, the last half of the tribulation period or approximately 3.5 years just prior to the millennium period.

 

So lets just insert ourselves within that coming time frame to almost the midpoint of the approximately 7 year tribulation period....... or approximately 1230 days from the beginning of the tribulation period......... or 1290 days from the end of it........ or approximately 30 days prior to the midpoint. From that time point in scripture what do we see?

 

We see the 1260 day ministry of the two witnesses nearly coming to a close.

 

We see the antichrist and his world wide domination becoming bolder and bolder.

 

We see the antichrist erect a talking statue, an avatar of himself in Jerusalem....as per Jesus, it's the abomination that leads to desolation. As per Daniel this abomination of desolation is “set-up” 1290 days prior to the end....(believed to be the end of the tribulation period)

 

We see Jesus warning those in Jerusalem to flee to the mountains when this abominable graven image is set up in God's holy city.

 

We see as per Zechariah that Israel will be under attack by “all nations”.

 

We see again as per Zechariah that God the Father will directly (Himself) be front and center on the world stage to intervene for Israel in a huge way.

 

We see that the Father will not only vanquish the enemy armies aligned against Israel but He will also as per Zechariah and Isaiah make drastic changes to the topography of the Middle East.

 

We see in Isaiah that He makes the motion of a swimmer doing the breast stroke and completely modifies the Middle East landscape for vast distances.

 

We see in Revelation 11 that Jerusalem is referred to as Sodom and Egypt. My take on this is that when the Father modifies the land in the Middle East as a swimmer doing the breaststroke (with His back against Jerusalem) that He reaches out hundreds and hundreds of miles. He will I believe erase / destroy what's there then as He did to Sodom. And near within His reach, to the south, will be all the thousands of graven images erected within Egypt by those who worshiped foreign gods over the centuries.. Egypt I believe will be wiped clean of pyramids and any other idols dedicated to past false god worship.

 

We see in Zechariah that the Father not only greatly modifies the landscape in the Middle East but He also adds new vast tracts of land to the earth as is described in Zechariah 14:4-5. This could be hundreds and hundreds of square miles of new land that the 12 tribes of Jacob will utilize during the millennium......greatly extending the footprint of the Middle East. Isaiah 26:15 says....”You (Father) have expanded all the borders of the land.” It appears to me that this will be the Father's version of “loafs and fishes”.....He will take x amount of land there in Israel and turn it into 10x or 100x......or whatever fits His needs.

 

We see in Isaiah 25 that in the process of this great renovation He, God the Father destroys ...”the fortress of the high fort of your walls”....something as per Isaiah that was very “pridefully” erected (set-up) by “trickery” of their hands.

 

We then see as per Isaiah a great mountain sized structure located there in the Middle East obviously parked on the new renovated land. A structure so big Isaiah is lost for words to describe it.

 

We also see Isaiah say.... on this mountain....and in this mountain....giving credence to it having great length , width, and height. And due to Isaiah's “mountain description” and Isaiah saying that the hand of the Lord will rest on this mountain, we certainly glean the concept that this great structure in hard and has a security system second to none.

 

We can see from what Jesus told us would happen in Matthew 6 that this new great mountain-like structure is the Father's relocated kingdom which will then be on earth.

 

We see all sorts of bible verses that indicate that this new relocated kingdom complex (the Father's house) will be used to house and protect the Father's and Jesus' end time harvest (the elect).......... during the second half of the approximate 7 year tribulation period.

Remember Revelation 12...it says that the woman (the remnant Jews) will be nourished for a time and times and half a time and protected from the serpent. And yes, it's my belief that this huge mountain-like complex will be what the bible describes as New Jerusalem. As per the foreshadowing in Joshua, the Christian church will only occupy this new complex for a short time....... whereas the remnant Jews and the resurrected Jews (Ezekiel 37) will be safe within this new kingdom complex for a time and times and a half of time......approximately 3.5 years.

 

We see in Matthew 24 and 2 Thessalonians 2 that after there is a great falling away from the church due to what I believe will be great persecution.... and.... coupled with the antichrist being firmly planted in power............ to the point of setting himself up in Jerusalem and declaring himself to be the real God of all (Revelation 13)......that it's then (as stated in Matthew 24:31 and 2 Thessalonians 2:1) that the elect are “gathered” not raptured.

 

We see that the elect are the gathered and taken to the Father's new relocated kingdom which sets on a footprint in the Middle East of what appears to be at least 1500 square miles.

 

We see from scripture that everything outside of this new kingdom complex (world-wide) is enemy territory controlled by the Satanic trinity. What the bible describes as “outer darkness”.

 

We see from the book of Joshua a direct foreshadowing (scripting) of what will happen to the Christian church after they are brought to the Father's new relocated kingdom. The Father brings the dead in Christ with Him when He relocates His kingdom from heaven to earth (1 Thessalonians 4:14) and Jesus and His angels gathers “the alive elect” (Gentiles and Jews) during the Day of the Lord period (near the mid-point of the seven years) to then be brought to the safety of the Father's house. (Matthew 24, 2 Thessalonians 2)

 

I won't again go into what happens to the Christians within the Father's new kingdom complex that I covered extensively before in prior posts....... as per the new river, being born again, marriage supper of the Lamb, changing from mortal to immortal, and the bride rising to meet Jesus in the air above the Father's new kingdom complex.

 

Donna, your said........ that this solid mountain-like complex which I believe is New Jerusalem will not being there in the Middle East during the millennium period to obstruct the 12 tribes...... I agree totally. I agree because scripture tells us that at some point.....which appears to be at the end of the 7 year period.....that, the hardened part.... the covering..... of this giant structure will be gone.

 

In Isaiah 25:7...... Isaiah says there will come a time (Isaiah is referring to the great mountain-like structure)... that.....”He (God) will destroy on this mountain the surface of the covering cast over all people.... and...... the veil that is spread over all nations”

And remember in verse 10 Isaiah says that the hand of the Lord will rest on this mountain like structure.

So the covering of this great mountain-like structure (which I believe is New Jerusalem) which I believe is the covering of the Father's new relocated earthly kingdom is at some point destroyed. Not what is within the huge complex is to be destroyed.....but what covers it.

 

And Isaiah says that the veil that is spread over all nations will be destroyed.

What is now the veil which is spread over all nations on earth? It's Satan's evil control of the world. Isaiah is saying there in chapter 25 that at some point two things will happen. The surface covering of the great mountain-like structure will be destroyed and the evil veil, the evil control of earth by Satan will be destroyed.

 

And we know from scripture that one of these two events, the reign of Satan.... the evil veil over the world...... ends at the end of the tribulation period. So it appears from that verse in Isaiah that the hardened surface covering of the Father's new house will also be destroyed at that same time. Not what is within the Father's new huge complex...... but what covers it.

 

Also in Hebrews 10 (written by an unknown author) the text reveals events that speak directly to the tribulation era I just discussed and to the happenings which take place during that period.

We see there in chapter 10..... “a Day” spoken of when the Father will re-establish His covenant relationship with the Jews. Hebrews 10:16-17. A forced relationship (if you will) where the Father puts His Spirit into His covenant people (Ezekiel 37:14) preventing them from defiling themselves anymore (Ezekiel 37:23) like they repeatedly did in the past.

The Father says in Hebrews 10:16 that He will put His laws into their (the Jews) hearts and minds. And that He will not remember their sins and lawless deeds anymore.

 

Then in Hebrews 10:19 the author moves on to verses directed at or concerning Jesus and Christians. He says that we Christians can now boldly enter the Holiest (the Father's new re-located house?) because of the blood of Jesus which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh. And that Jesus is the High Priest over the house of God. Sounds to me that Jesus is the protective veil over the house of God. And during the tribulation period Jesus will be the veil over the Father's new relocated kingdom complex.

Then the author of Hebrews 10 speaks to these blood bought Christians having full assurance in their faith.

Then the author speaks to (touches on) what I believe and have promoted in my writings as “the born again event” which happens to the Christian Church inside the Father's new relocated kingdom complex. Within the Father's new complex flows a new river containing “living waters” (Zechariah 14:8) which emanates from Jerusalem. This new river emanating from the crucifixion site in Jerusalem would contain the water, blood and Spirit of Jesus.

 

Jesus said in John 3 that we must be born again of the water and the Spirit or we can not see or enter the kingdom of God......telling me that I must bath in the new river flowing from Jerusalem to and within the Father's new earthly kingdom complex......... and I must take-in the essence of Jesus which is contained within the waters of that river to be born again. We as Christians according to Paul receive an adoption quantity of that Spirit when we accept Jesus' blood sacrifice on our behalf..... qualifying us to be gathered and taken to the Father's new complex where we can receive the full quantity of water and Spirit to be officially born again and officially qualified to see and enter the kingdom of heaven.

 

With all that in mind lets again look at Hebrews 10:19-22 ..... that passage focusing on entering “the Holiest”. I believe that refers to the Father's house during the tribulation period. We can enter or be gathered there (verse 19) because we accepted Jesus' blood sacrifice. And, as per verse 21 Jesus as High Priest was over that house of God.

Now what does it say in verse 22 that we do inside “the Holiest”....... ”let us draw near (near what? A river perhaps) with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water”

Gee....where does the bible say we find pure water? In Revelation 22 it says we find “pure water” flowing within the New Jerusalem complex. And where does that pure water emanate from? Zechariah says pure living waters flow from the new river emanating from Jerusalem which contains the water, blood and Spirit of Jesus who deposited those most precious of substances there on the ground at His crucifixion. Isaiah 12 calls this water “wells of salvation”.

Where then does this pure river flow? It certainly appears to me it flows into the Father's new kingdom complex or as I believe New Jerusalem where we see in Revelation 22 it contains a pure river of water..... of life.

 

So Donna.....I say all this to agree with you that the 12 Jewish tribes will not be encumbered by a 1500 square mile mountain-like structure in the Middle East during the millennium period because scripture (Isaiah) appears to say that the surface covering of this huge complex will be destroyed along with the evil veil that Satan has had all over the world. Both destroyed at the end of the 7 year tribulation period.

 

Also when the Father creates the huge new valley (Zechariah 14:4) along with the rest of His massive Middle East urban renewal project........ obviously He stretches the earth's surface north and south for who knows what distance. We do know that the final land mass will accommodate 100's of millions of Jews. Most of which the Father resurrects in Ezekiel 37 (the whole house of Jacob) to be used as His exceedingly great (personal) army. Ezekiel 37:10. All two hundred million of them...Revelation 9:16

Joel 2 calls this great force....”His army” in verse 11.

 

So when this all washes out at the end of the tribulation period the Father will have provided ample room in the Middle East to accommodate 100's of millions of Jews. Jews that will have the Spirit of the Father put in them. Jews that will no longer defile themselves.....He will cleanse them and make them His people.

 

It appears as Christians we get to rule and reign with Jesus in whatever scenarios He inserts us. I go to prepare a place for you.........and it appears that that place will be glorious considering Jesus' creation of earth.

 

 

My prior post leading up to all of this for those who are new to this continued story-line is linked below.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/mar2021/johnb328.htm

 

 

 

Blessings Donna......John B