Doug L (23 Apr 2017)
"To all but the closed-minded, the Bible is a book that leaves many issues open."
> > For his own good reasons, God has not revealed all of the specifics of his plan for humanity.
HOWEVER, JESUS SAID, "BUT TAKE YE HEED: BEHOLD, I HAVE FORETOLD YOU ALL THINGS" (MAR 13:23).
To me, if he has foretold "ALL THINGS", the time of the Rapture is revealed in the Bible.
People keep saying that no one knows the day or hour, but Jesus didn't say that.
In Mat 24:35-37, he said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."
IN NOAH'S DAY, THE WINDOWS OF HEAVEN WERE OPENED ON IYAR 17, AND THEY STAYED OPEN 40 DAYS
Gen 7:11 says, "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened."
That is a good hint. Noah went into the Ark on Iyar 17, and the windows of heaven were opened. It rained 40 days. Sometime during those 40 days the Ark lifted off of the ground. Pentecost is the only feast day that falls within that 40-day period.
17th of Iyar, 5777 = Sat, 13 May 2017.
From Saturday, May 13, 2017
Added 40 days
Result: Thursday, June 22, 2017
Pentecost: Sun. June 4, 2017
Mar_13:28 says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near".
The fig tree puts forth her leaves in early June. The first grapes come on in early June too.
THE SECRET OF THE STAIRS
Son 2:10-15 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. 11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain (i.e., of Nisan) is over and gone; 12 The flowers appear on the earth (i.e., April showers bring May flowers); the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove, which comes and April and leaves in October) is heard in our land; 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes."
“WHEN HE BLOWETH A TRUMPET, HEAR YE”
Isa 18:3-7 says, “All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign on the mountains; and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye. 4 For so the LORD said unto me, I will take my rest, and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest. 5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away and cut down the branches. 6 They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall SUMMER upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall winter upon them. 7 In that time shall the present be brought unto the LORD of hosts of a people scattered and peeled, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of the LORD of hosts, the mount Zion.”
Summer solstice 2017 in Northern Hemisphere will be at 9:24 PM on
Tuesday, June 20.
THE RAPTURE IS NOT PRE-TRIB
I thought the Rapture would be Pre-Trib for many years. All my teachers were Pre-Trib. I didn’t know any better. My pastor at Rolling Hills Covenant was Chuck Swindoll. I went to hear Hal Lindsey, Charles Fineberg and R.B. Thieme preach. I studied all the tapes I could get my hands on.
Yet, in spite of all my studies, I missed something important in 1Th 4:16,17.
ITh 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
MICHAEL IS THE ARCHANGEL, AND HE COMES TO EARTH MID-TRIB
Jud 1:9 says, "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee."
THE REASON MICHAEL CONTENDS WITH THE DEVIL ABOUT THE BODY OF MOSES
When Michael comes back Mid-Trib, he will bring Moses and Elijah with him.
Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise (i.e., in the Mid-Trib Rapture), and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth."
Dan 12:1 is plain. It says, "And at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) shall MICHAEL stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and AT THAT TIME THY PEOPLE SHALL BE DELIVERED, EVERY ONE THAT SHALL BE FOUND WRITTEN IN THE BOOK."
Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 7 And there was war in heaven: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW IS COME SALVATION, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore REJOICE, HE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM."
THE DAY MY EYES WERE OPENED
I read Rev 13:5-11 again and found out that those “THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN” are there JUST BEFORE THE FALSE PROPHET COMES TO POWER MID-TRIB.
Rev 13:5-11 says, “And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist, the first beast) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., during the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the wise-virgin saints caught up just before the False Prophet comes to power). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish-virgin saints left behind), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another beast (i.e., the FALSE PROPHET) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.”
ONE THING I FAILED TO RECOGNIZE FOR SO LONG: THE RAPTURE IS WHEN MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL COMES MID-TRIB
1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
I should have read Rev 1:9-11 more carefully. It says, “I John, who also am your brother, and companion IN TRIBULATION, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (i.e., Sunday), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega”.
I should have paid more attention to the message to the church in Thyatira (which means dominating female). At the time of the Rapture, some in Thyatira, and those that join with her, are to be cast into "GREAT TRIBULATION".
Rev 2:18-22 says, "And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; 19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I WILL CAST HER INTO A BED, AND THEM THAT COMMIT ADULTERY WITH HER INTO GREAT TRIBULATION, except they repent of their deeds."
The Rapture takes place on a feast day when a trumpet is blown. Only Pentecost takes place during the 40 days it rained in Noah's day.
Rev 4:1,2 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was (lit., became) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne."
Rev 10:11 says, "And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."
Therefore, the "Rise" in the next verse is the Mid-Trib Rapture of the temple of the Holy Spirit, the wise virgins.
Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth."
It was interesting to find out that Ruth married Boaz on Pentecost. No wonder the Jews read Ruth on Pentecost. One of the pillars in front of the Temple was called Boaz. It might stand for a Pentecost Rapture, because Boaz married on Pentecost.
Israel was born at Mt. Sinai on Pentecost. Maybe the Church will be born into Heaven on Pentecost.
Enoch (whose name means teaching) was born and raptured on Sivan 6, the day the Church was born. Will the Church be raptured on its birthday? We should know soon.
The church was born on earth on Pentecost. Maybe it will be born in heaven on Pentecost.
A few days ago, I dreamed of standing by my husband (who died in 2011) in Heaven. Hope that is a sign that we will be reunited soon.
The number 7 means completion. To me, the Rapture in 5777 seems reasonable. We won’t have to wait long to find out.