Fay (2 Apr 2017)
"Revelation 4"

 
Dear John and Doves,

I would like to bring this chapter to your attention. Many,many Christians believe that Revelations 4 denotes the rapture. Thereby taking the church out of the equation before the 4 horsemen etc. This explains why so many eminent Bible scholars will not acknowledge Nathan's prophecy (not even address it !) and will not acknowledge the pale green horse seen in Tahrir Square, Egypt, in February 2011. It doesn't fit in with their fixed version of Revelation 4 being the "Rapture chapter". John was taken to heaven - no question - but he was called to "Come up hither" and then was "immediately in the spirit". He did not stay in heaven. He returned to earth - to his same old mortal body. He lived an earthly, mortal life, right up until his death. His body was not transformed and changed - as we are promised ours will be in the Rapture. John was called to for a special visit to heaven to be shown what was going to happen "hereafter". John had written the letters to the churches - who existed in his present day - and THEN was invited up to heaven to be shown the future. Much as young Natan was taken up in spirit form to be shown the future. Natan also returned to his earthly, mortal body. He too, told us of what he had learned and what the near future holds. This does NOT denote a rapture type. For me the "Rapture Chapter" is Revelation 7:9 where a huge, huge crowd appear in heaven, waving palm branches (denoting the Palm Sunday / Passover season). This happens after a massive earthquake has occurred and the 144,000 are sealed. Perhaps the Rapture happens during the earthquake or just before. As does the sealing of the 144,000.

We are not appointed to WRATH. It doesn't say we will not suffer or see tribulation in one form or another. See Revelation 6 below. Revelation chapter 7 is below that. The last link is Revelation chapter 4.

The day of His wrath comes in chapter 6. Not chapter 4. In my opinion, there is absolutely no excuse for Bible scholars to simply ignore the prophecies of young Natan. To not even address it?? This is negligence of the highest order.