Hi Arlene and Michael...

The conversation of this type really requires an in-depth study with people in the same room. It's very difficult to really get depth without the ability for unity of spirit and not caring if one is wrong or right.

The only thing that comes to mind are questions and some may not be easily answered.

My personal opinion is pre Great Tribulation. Am I right? Well....don't fully know but I don't subscribe to the 7 years of Jacob's trouble or the last week to be the brides parting time. Over the years wonderful Doves have given so much to consider that I believe we go up as Satan comes down, hence Christ no longer needing to be our Advocate.

There is debate even in the pre wrath circles as to when judgements actually begin. I believe they go hand in hand with the reign of the anti christ. Just look at the boils that are given to those that take the mark.

When presented with alot of information that would seem to fall into perhaps two or more camps, then knowing that all scripture is true, then perhaps there is more than one rapture. Not saying there is but not being open to an Almighty God and putting Him in a box seems to me to be wrong.

Since I agree with the author that we won't know the day or hour, living Holy unto the Lord, to me anyway, is critical.

OK...my thoughts. BTW...I don't mean to be rude, nasty, unthoughtful, or non caring. I am incredibly interested in Christians putting on the full armor of God, which is Christ and tearing down strongholds so that His Kingdom might be full. He deserves that.

Sorry for the delay...there seems to be two distinct times when God's judgements are poured out. One starting about the time the bride is taken home or very shortly thereafter and at the very end when people are screaming for the rocks to fall on them to hide against what is yet to hit them. So...is the Day of the Lord and the Day of Christ different? Could we be looking at two raptures and not one? Is pre trib actually 7 years as the bridal timeframe implies or are we still here till the beginning or into a bit of the Great Tribulation.

I've already talked too much. It may be that pre wrath and pre tribulation are actually the same thing.

You two are such a blessing. Thanks for letting me put my two cents into the pot.

YBIC...Steve W2