From: Marilyn Agee
> I do believe it is possible that Rome is Babylon, and certainly one of > the leading candidates for the city of Rev 17.
> It is also possible that the ancient city of Babylon is the city of Rev > 17.
I think Vatican City is the city of Rev 17:18 now, but it will be moved to the literal Babylon near the Euphrates River. The mention of the Euphrates and the Chaldeans in other scriptures help us to see through the glass more clearly.
Rev 17:18 says, "And the woman which thou sawest is that great CITY , which reigneth over the kings of the earth."
Rev 17:3 says, "So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness (eremos, desert, i.e., Babylon): and I saw a woman (i.e, the MYSTERY RELIGION OF BABYLON) sit upon a scarlet coloured beast (i.e., the dragon, Satan), full of names of blasphemy (PONTIFEX MAXIMUS, VICAR OF CHRIST, etc.), having seven heads (i.e., the 7th head is BABYLON III) and ten horns."
Rev 17:10 says, "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space."
THE 7 EMPIRES
Five have fallen:
1. Babylon I, Literal Tower of Babel started by Nimrod
2. Babylon II, ruled by Nebuchadnezzar
3. Media-Persia, ruled by Cyrus
4. Greece, ruled by Alexander
5. Holy Roman Empire, ruled by the Caesars
6. The Ecclesiastical Holy Roman Empire, ruled by the Pontifex Maximus
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
At the time of the First-trump Rapture, one is yet to come:
7. Babylon III, ruled by the False Prophet
Rev 18:2-4 says, "And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication (i.e., joining together), and the kings of the earth have committed fornication (i.e., joined) with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." That is the Last-Trump Rapture.
Rev 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."
> But it also precedes the word "Babylon" with the word "mystery". So it > may simply be telling us that this city will use confusion to hide > truth.
It is confusion to be sure. The "mystery" suggests Satan's MYSTERY RELIGION OF BABYLON. St. Peter's Basilica is built over the spot where the temple to Cybele, a goddess of the Mystery religion, used to be. As the Magna Mater, MOTHER OF THE GODS, she was represented by a black cube-shaped stone similar to the meteorite that is worshiped by Islam at Mecca. Cybele was often pictured with two lions. That may be why the walls of Babylon were decorated with winged lions.
This Satanic Mystery Religion began at the Tower of Babel with Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz. Semiramis and Tammuz were worshiped as the Madonna and child. Nimrod, and later Tammuz, were worshiped as the Sun-god. Semiramis has different names in other countries, but is essentially the same sun goddess. She and Tammuz were even called Madonna and Child. Satan tried hard to make this worship so outlandish that no one would take notice when the real thing showed up. This shows that Satan knew what was coming. He evidently even knows how much time he has left.
I immediately thought of the Sun god worship when I saw Pope Benedict holding up a monstrance, which looks to me like an emblem of the Sun. I will include a picture of that.
Cybele's face was put on Roman coins. Idols of her were placed in Roman shrines. She was called mother of the gods and queen of heaven.
At times, Israel worshipped ASHTAROTH as the QUEEN OF HEAVEN.
Jdg_2:13 says, "And they forsook the LORD, and served BAAL AND ASHTAROTH."
1Sa_12:10 says, "And they cried unto the LORD, and said, We have sinned, because we have forsaken the LORD, and have served BAALIM and ASHTAROTH: but now deliver us out of the hand of our enemies, and we will serve thee."
Jer_7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the QUEEN OF HEAVEN, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."
Jer_44:17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem".
Jer 50:2 Declare ye among the nations, and publish, and set up a standard; publish, and conceal not: say, Babylon is taken, Bel is confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded, her images are broken in pieces."
Jer_13:4-7 says, " Take the girdle that thou hast got, which is upon thy loins, and arise, go to EUPHRATES, and hide it there in a hole of the rock. 5 So I went, and hid it by EUPHRATES, as the LORD commanded me. 6 And it came to pass after many days, that the LORD said unto me, Arise, go to EUPHRATES, and take the girdle from thence, which I commanded thee to hide there. 7 Then I went to EUPHRATES, and digged, and took the girdle from the place where I had hid it: and, behold, the girdle was marred, it was profitable for nothing."
Jer_46:10 says, "For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river EUPHRATES."
Isa_46:1 says, "Bel boweth down, Nebo stoopeth, their idols were upon the beasts, and upon the cattle: your carriages were heavy loaden; they are a burden to the weary beast."
The verse I saw a rectangle of light on, Jer 50:2, says, "Declare ye among the nations, and publish, and set up a standard; publish, and conceal not: say, BABYLON is taken, Bel is confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded, her images are broken in pieces."
Images mark false religion. And there are plenty of them on the roof of St. Peter's Basilica.
Jer_51:44 says, "And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up: and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall."
Isa_47:1 says, "Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate."
Isa_47:5 says, "Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called, The lady of kingdoms."
Isa_48:14 says, "All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these things? The LORD hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on BABYLON, and his arm shall be on the CHALDEANS."
Isa_48:20 says, "Go ye forth of BABYLON, flee ye from the CHALDEANS, with a voice of singing declare ye, tell this, utter it even to the end of the earth; say ye, The LORD hath redeemed his servant Jacob."
Jer_21:9 says, "He that abideth in this city shall die by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence: but he that goeth out, and falleth to the Chaldeans that besiege you, he shall live, and his life shall be unto him for a prey."
Jer_22:25 says, "And I will give thee into the hand of them that seek thy life, and into the hand of them whose face thou fearest, even into the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, and into the hand of the Chaldeans."
Jer_25:12 says, "And it shall come to pass, when seventy years are accomplished, that I will punish the king of Babylon, and that nation, saith the LORD, for their iniquity, and the land of the Chaldeans, and will make it perpetual desolations."
Jer_46:10 says, "For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates."
Jer_50:25 says, "The LORD hath opened his armoury, and hath brought forth the weapons of his indignation: for this is the work of the Lord GOD of hosts in the land of the Chaldeans."
Jer_50:35 says, "A sword (i.e., the sword of the Lord) is upon the CHALDEANS, saith the LORD, and upon the inhabitants of BABYLON, and upon her princes, and upon her wise men."
The sword of the Lord is Satan's residence, the asteroid Wormwood. (Rev 8:8-11).
Jer_50:45 says, "Therefore hear ye the counsel of the LORD, that he hath taken against BABYLON; and his purposes, that he hath purposed against the land of the CHALDEANS: Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out: surely he shall make their habitation desolate with them."
Jer 50:46 says, "At the noise of the taking of BABYLON the earth is moved (i.e., it will be turned upside down), and the cry is heard among the nations."
Jer_51:4 says, "Thus the slain shall fall in the land of the CHALDEANS, and they that are thrust through in her streets."
Jer_51:54 says, "A sound of a cry cometh from BABYLON, and great destruction from the land of the CHALDEANS".
Jer_52:7 says, "Then the city was broken up, and all the men of war fled, and went forth out of the city by night by the way of the gate between the two walls, which was by the king's garden; (now the CHALDEANS were by the city round about:) and they went by the way of the plain."
Hab_1:6 says, "For, lo, I raise up the CHALDEANS, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not theirs."
Rev_16:12 says, "And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river EUPHRATES; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared."
THE SWORD OF THE LORD IS SATAN'S HOME ON THE ASTEROID WORMWOOD THAT WILL HIT BABYLON ON THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS, THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH, THE DAY OF THE LORD
Isa 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (Babylon) and whom hast thou here (the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock? 17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. 18 He will surely violently turn and TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."
Jdg_7:18 says, "When I blow with a trumpet (i.e., it is the Feast of Trumpets, probably Sept. 14, 2015) I and all that are with me, then blow ye the trumpets also on every side of all the camp, and say, The SWORD OF THE LORD, and of Gideon."
Jdg_7:20 says, "And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, The SWORD OF THE LORD, and of Gideon."
1Ch_21:12 says, "Either three years' famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; or else three days the SWORD OF THE LORD, even the pestilence, in the land, and the ANGEL OF THE LORD (i.e., the Son of God) destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel. Now therefore advise thyself what word I shall bring again to him that sent me."
Isa_34:6 says, "The SWORD OF THE LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea."
Jer_12:12 says, "The spoilers are come upon all high places through the wilderness: for the SWORD OF THE LORD shall devour from the one end of the land even to the other end of the land: no flesh shall have peace."
Jer_47:6 says, "O thou SWORD OF THE LORD, how long will it be ere thou be quiet? put up thyself into thy scabbard, rest, and be still."
Jovial (28 March 2013)
"Who is "Babylon", and why is the city called that?"
thanks to Donna for the research at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2013/donnad327-1.htm . I do believe it is possible that Rome is Babylon, and certainly one of the leading candidates for the city of Rev 17.
Some people say that the name "Babylon" is being used in a "symbolic" sense. We really don't have to go that far. It is quite possible it is being used in a descriptive sense. The word "Babylon" means "confusion", and by calling that city "Babylon", the Scriptures could simply be calling it the city of confusion, with little to no intended link to the ancient city of Babylon.
It is also possible that the ancient city of Babylon is the city of Rev 17. In order for that to happen though, since Daniel points towards Europe as the place of origin by saying the people of the false messiah would destroy the temple, I would suspect the false messiah would likely still rise out of Europe and then move his capital there.
But it also precedes the word "Babylon" with the word "mystery". So it may simply be telling us that this city will use confusion to hide truth. Daniel tells us that truth will be thrown to the ground when the false messiah rises. So that is no surprise.