David H (20 Apr 2013)
"Molver drawings part 2 The paintbrush."


This drawing had an especially specific message for me. I have been working on a new way of Ordering the events of revelation. I Am going to copy and paste a part of this study i have been working on, and let you make the connection to the picture with the paintbrush. This is a work in progress, and recently I realized a big piece is missing form it. That being said, I am copying it with that piece missing still, thus it is incomplete. Its a bit long, so if the moderator wants he can break it into three parts
God bless
David H
When I was asked How Revelation was revealed to John the Apostle, I had Long ago given up on the notion that the whole book was a sequential ordering of events. For example Most timelines have the seals followed by the trumpets and by the Bowls. The rest being thrown in for good measure wherever it fits. The contradictions and confusion from this line of thinking are astounding if you are honest with your reasoning. For example Babylon is written about in chapter 14, and chapter 18. So does it fall twice, hence the "fallen, fallen" double wording? Or after the sixth trumpet, the rest of Mankind did not repent, Yet after the two witnesses, "the rest of the people who were not killed in Jerusalem Gave glory to God", thus showing repentence? Also this line of thinking does not explain why there is an "interlude" between the sixth and seventh seal, and the sixth and seventh trumpet, which both have "rapture language". Not to mention the endless debates on when the rapture occurs, Pre trib, sixth seal, Post trib, Pre wrath. How then do the characters fit into the order Revelation 12-13? I could go on here, and many have wonderful ways to explain these positions/ contradictions which Make sense. This not the point of this post.
But I am proposing another way of looking At the Book of Revelation. As a Painting being painted in front of John by the "Great Artist" and Creator. This Epic battle painting is titled "The Day of the Lord". It has an element of time to It, much like the bas reliefs found in ancient ruins depicting battle scenes. It tells a story, just like the Cistine chapel ceiling paintings do. It has a Background, a foreground, a horizon line, a "clock", Characters both protagonist and antagonist, Victory, and the ensuing celebration, and setting. If you have ever watched a painter create a landscape, he will first paint the entire background. Then He will determine the horizon line and lighting, and then will insert the foreground, the character and then the finer details and highlights, and then declare that painting complete. Thus John witnessed all the seals being placed into the painting first, Then all the trumpets, But that does not mean that all the trumpets occur after the seventh seal in linear time.
Throughout the Old Testament the coming Day of the Lord, and his Presence with his People are described in the imagery of a tempest. In Exodus we see the Lord appearing to Moses on Mount Sinai for the first time in the prescence of the Israelites. " And the Lord said to Moses, 'Behold I am coming to you in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak to you, and may also believe you forever'" (Exodus 19:9) Then they are told to consecrate themselves for three days, and not touch the mountain until the sound of the Long trumpet blast. "On the Morning of the third day there were thunders and lightnings and a thick cloud on the mountain and a very loud trumpet blast, So that all the people in the camp trembled." (exodus 19:16)

Hannah in her prayer wrote: "The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces; against them He will thunder in heaven. The Lord will Judge the ends of the earth; he will give strength to his king and exalt the power of his annointed." (1 Samuel 2:10)

When the Lord Answered Job, He asked him the question, "Have you seen the storehouses of hail, which I have reserved for a time of trouble, for the day of battle and war?" (Job 38:23-24)
David in Psalm 18 describes The Lord's prescence as "The Lord also thundred in the heavens, and the Most High uttered his voice, Hailstones and coals of fire."
In Ezekial 38: 22-23 we see the imagery of hailstones and fire coming down in a tempest to destroy the Armies of Gog. "With Pestilence and bloodshed, I will enter into Judgement with him, and I will rain upon him and his hordes and the many people who are with him torrential rains and hailstones, fire and sulfer."
In the Book of Revelation, This imagery is prevalent. Thunder, thunders, thunderings appear nine times (4:5, 6:1, 8:5, 10:3,4, 11:19, 14:2, 16:18, 19:6) Hail/Hailstones are mentioned Three times (8:7, 11:19, 16:21). In addition to this, we Have the imagery of the winepress of God's wrath found three times ( 14:19,20, and 19:15).
If there is any Imagery that describes the Day of the Lord, these are the ones. Out of these 15 verses, 6:1, 8:7 can be eliminated as describing the day of the Lord due to their association with the first seal, and the first trumpet (I will come back to these later). 10:3,4 and 14:19,20 can be combined into one, while 11:19, has both thunder and hail mentioned in the same passage. You can also combine 16:18, and 16:21 as they are both referring to the same event, and 19:6, and 19:15 as they are both describing the rider on the white horse. At this point, what we are left with are eight distinct passages as listed below describing the day of the Lord.
1. Revelation 4:5 A reference to the rapture of the church (Thunder)
2. Revelation 8:5 The seventh seal (Thunder)
3. Revelation 10:3,4 The seven Thunders reference...a Mystery?/note 10: 6,7? (Thunder)
4. Revelation 11:19 The seventh trumpet (Thunder, Hail)
5. Revelation 14:2 The "Lamb" standing on Mount Zion with the 144,000 (Thunder)
6. Revelation 14:19,20 The Harvest of the earth, /winepress of wrath, "message of three angels" (Wrath)
7. Revelation 16:18,21 The seventh Bowl/Plague (Thunder,Hail)
8. Revelation 19:6,15 The rider on the white Horse implementing wrath/ millenial reign. (Thunder, wrath)
In the outline above we have eight facets to this painting, all of which lead to the completed Painting. If "trumpets" mark the years, as the feast of trumpets of Israel did, then this is the Clock with which we mark off years. We also have characters which enter the painting at different times. For example the two witnesses, The dragon, the beast, The woman riding the beast etc. We are also given various 1260 day counts that fit in there. For example the Beast excercises authority for 42 months, and the woman (Israel) flees into the wilderness for a "time, and times, and half a time". When and why do these times overlap? This should begin to answer these questions even further.
If reading this painting from left to right, You may have seal one and two occurring, then followed by trumpet one leading to seal three, and the first character introduced. In Other words, the order of events would take discernment on the part of the reader in order to put them together in a linear way. John Just recorded them down as the painting was being painted.
As for the details of this ordering, I have come up with the following for you to consider. Note the cause and effect of each event and you may see why I have placed each in that Location. I will only extend this out a little ways, I am not claiming this is right, only making a suggestion. This is totally based on deduction and reasoning, with a little bit of revelation, and inspiration. I do believe that all the seals are ordered 1-7, Thus seal 4 will not precede seal 3. This goes for all the other facets of the painting. But what I do believe do line up is that the seventh seal, trumpet, bowl, along with the other five verses above, line up and are describing the same "Day"
Revelation 1:1-3:6-Introduction and first five churches, which serve as a background spanning from the time of Christ to current days.
Revelation 5:1-14 This Passage of the seals being opened by the Worthy Lamb began at the cross. The Three days of consecration mentioned above in the exodus quote implies this third millenial day for the Lord to return.
Revelation 6:1-2 Seal one is opened. Of note is the "voice like thunder" saying "come". Authority given to the rider (Bow), but no arrows.
Revalation 3:7-22 The church in Philadelphia, and Laodicea, one goes the other is spued out.
Revelation 6:3-4 The red Horse: With the "church" out of the picture, war and lawlessness will rule.
Revelation 8:6-7 Trumpet One: Hail and fire mixed with blood:1/3 of earth,trees and grass burned up. This could be a volcanic event which will occur before the harvest season (early date feast of trumpets) which will lead to famine. If this occurs in the U.S. this year, in the heartland the ramifications are astounding.
Revelation 6:5-6 The rider on the black horse: famine, increased food prices, do not harm the oil and wine.
Revelation 12:1-6 The first great sign in heaven. The comet Ison has an uncanny way of fitting this prophecy, as it Passes by virgo, and its tail will sweep across the sky dramatically.
Revelation 6:7-8 Pale Horse: death authority over 1/4 of earth to kill with sword, famine pestilence, and wild beasts. This is the rise to power of the dragon who will soon be sent down to occupy this seat.
Revelation 12:7-12 Satan thrown down to earth and his angels with him.
At this point, I will stop. I have thrown some current events into there, which suggest that this may be the year...2013. I have been wrong before, and the last time I was wrong won't be the last time I am wrong. This should not sway from this Concept of Ordering though.
I mentioned above the two thunders which were eliminated because of their timing occuring at the first seal and trumpet. I do not think these are insignificant. For those who understand the "blessed Hope" and our first fruits rapture, This is where it will occur After the first seal, before the first trumpet. As well as the Philadelphia and Laodicean church, one of which is taken, while the other is spewed out. Consider this, carefully, before dismissing the pre tribulation rapture. Hopefully this will also deepen the understanding of those who know they will be leaving soon as well as those who are spued out. Please note also, that the wedding and celebration occur afterwards, and that none that are deemed righteous will face the wrath.
The one who  offers thanksgiving as his sacrifice glorifies me;
to one who "orders his way rightly
I will show the "salvation of God! (Psalm 50:23)