From: Marilyn AgeeHi:> > It seems that there are many differences of opinions as to when the Two Witnesses will witness; the first half of the Tribulation or the last half. After much research in to both sides of the issue, I find that it has to be during the first half.I used to think that the two witnesses would prophesy during the first half of the Tribulation, just as I thought the First-Trump Rapture would take place before the Tribulation. I had to change my mind. We are still here, and Mid-Trib seems to be coming up Nov 8/9, 2012. Daniel 8:13,14 shows us that after shortening, the Tribulation lasts 2300 days (1260 + 1040 = 2300). That made it start Pentecost, May 29, 2009.Now, I understand why I didn’t have a baby for so long. My first child was to be born on May 29 to help me understand something that I just didn’t get for so long. My second child was born on April 6, Crucifixion Day on the Julian Calendar in 30 AD. May 29 was the second day of Pentecost that year.I think I understand the date of the end of the shortened Tribulation, the Feast of Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015.I know you are seeking the truth. Let’s read Rev 11 together.It says, “And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (egeiro, take up, i.e., at the First-Trump Rapture, probably Ascension Day, May 17, 2012), and measure the temple of God (i.e., we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit (1Co_6:19), and the altar, and them that worship therein (i.e., in Heaven).Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out (i.e., leave it on Earth), and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city (Jerusalem) shall they (the False Prophet and his men) tread under foot forty and two months (estimated time of the Tribulation, 42 months + 42 months, or 1260 days + 1260 days, actual time will be 1260 days + 1040 days, Dan 8:13,14; the last half has to be shortened or no flesh would be saved).Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (probably Moses and Elijah that come down at the Rapture), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., roughly the last half of the Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth.Rev 11:4 These are the TWO OLIVE TREES, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.”Let’s stop right there and pick it up again in a minute.Zec 4:11-14 says, “What are these TWO OLIVE TREES upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?Zec 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil (i.e., oil of the Holy Spirit) out of themselves?Zec 4:13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.Zec 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.”Mar 9:2 says, “And after six days Jesus (i.e., the Lord of the whole earth) taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart (i.e., as if raptured) by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.Mar 9:3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth (i.e., they are as if in Heaven) can white them.Mar 9:4 And there appeared unto them ELIAS with MOSES: and they were talking with Jesus.”Now, let’s go back to Rev 11.Rev 11:5 “ And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit (i.e., Satan) shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud (i.e., this is the Last-Trump Rapture); and their enemies beheld them.Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God (i.e., in Heaven),Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come (i.e., 7 months later, Dan 12:11, on Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, as Jesus returned on April 9, 30 AD); because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged (i.e., at the Judgment Seat of Christ), and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.” That hail is probably of rocks falling like early figs in the wind (Rev 6:12-17). The two asteroids of Rev 8:8-11 impact Earth. The two stone tablets in the Ark probably represented these asteroids that would hit Earth if the Ten Commandments were not kept.I think this fits the last half of the Tribulation. It ends with the Judgment Seat of Christ on the Day of God’s Wrath, probably Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015. The Jubilee should be announced 10 days later, on the Day of Atonement, Sept 23, 2015, and start on the day of the Second Advent, Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, the first day of the Sacred,
Regnal and Jubilee years. That year, 5776, is a leap year with the 13th month. That is why 30 days are added in Dan 12:11.A Jubilee Year must be preceded by a Sabbatic Year, and 5775 is Sabbatic. This Sabbatic Year seems to lock in that date.> > I, for one, have come to believe it is a period of 7 years and therefore do not believe we have entered into Daniel’s 70th week, yet. All that we have been experiencing are just the birth pangs before the Rapture. I totally believe that the Rapture of the Bride is the starting gun to the whole ball of wax.I have come to believe that the First-Trump Rapture will be on Ascension Day, May 17, 2012, because Jesus acted it out. We are the Body of Christ, and Christ ascended on Ascension Day. That is less than a month now. Be sure to be ready. I have a feeling that the forty-day countdown of the Omer (tomorrow is Omer 17) is when the wise virgins are being chosen. An Omer is 1/10th of an ephah, and in Zech 5, an ephah stands for the church that is being moved to Babylon in the land of Shinar.> > The Two Witnesses time of testimony must not overlap the 42 months given to the Anti-Christ.How do you know that?Agape,Marilyn Agee
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------WHEN DO THE TWO WITNESSES, WITNESS?Hello John and all Doves!!
It seems that there are many differences of opinions as to when the Two Witnesses will witness; the first half of the Tribulation or the last half. After much research in to both sides of the issue, I find that it has to be during the first half. I have always felt that to be true, but was open to hearing different opinions. I feel that I have been objective on this issue, but I will let you decide for yourselves. Here is my support for it being the first half.
I know this all hinges on whether or not one believes in a literal 7 year tribulation, or somehow comes to the conclusion it is only a 3 1/2 year Great Tribulation, as many do on this site. I, for one, have come to believe it is a period of 7 years and therefore do not believe we have entered into Daniel’s 70th week, yet. All that we have been experiencing are just the birth pangs before the Rapture. I totally believe that the Rapture of the Bride is the starting gun to the whole ball of wax. But, that is another subject that I will cover in another study.
For my purposes here, I will submit evidence that points to the Two Witnesses evangelizing during the first 3 ½ years of the 7 year tribulation. Since they are not here, yet, only points to the fact that the 70th week has not started.
(Let me point out here, that this will not change the fact that the Rapture will happen this year!! I am totally all in for 2012 Rapture and feel that it will kick off the final 7 years, not the final 3 ½ years.)
First of all, the Two Witnesses will witness during the time period of the Seven Seals and Seven Trumpet judgments. They are given power for 1260 days, the first half of the Tribulation.
Rev. 11:3 “And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."
The Anti-Christ is given power for 42 months or roughly the same time period of 1260 days.
Rev. 13:5 “And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months."
The Two Witnesses time of testimony must not overlap the 42 months given to the Anti-Christ. During the first 3 ½ year they are given power over their enemies, and then the Anti-Christ will be given 42 months to have power over his enemies. The Two Witnesses minister in the first half of the 70th Week and the Antichrist rules during the last half of the 70th Week.
The ministry of the Two Witnesses includes prophecy and testimony to all those left behind from the churches (lukewarm virgins) after the Rapture and to all the Jewish people whom have not yet received Jesus as their Messiah. They will have much to say to all those whom will be raptured mid-trib. This will be the greatest harvest of souls and there will be millions saved by their testimony. (The Wheat Harvest).
A covenant has just been made between Israel and the future Anti-Christ;Daniel 9:27 ” And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”
It would be the calling of these Two Witnesses to alert Israel to the lies and falsehoods of this covenant;
Isaiah 28:15 “Because ye have said, we have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:”
The temple is being rebuilt, and even before its completion animal sacrifices are being performed. These Two Witnesses will testify against these sacrifices and how they offend the Lord;
Isaiah 66:3 “He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.”
The Lord compares these to murder and the offering of pig’s blood!! This will definitely upset the Jews who have waited so long to rebuild their temple to perform these sacrifices. The Witnesses will remind Israel that the ultimate sacrifice has already been made through the death of the Messiah, the one they rejected, and they are offending God further by carrying out such irrelevant offerings.
These Two Witnesses are offensive to the whole world!! That is why the whole world will celebrate when the Anti-Christ kills them. They will not be popular!!!They will also warn the Jews about the Abomination of Desolation that will take place by the Anti-Christ, and how he will break the peace covenant and defile their newly rebuilt temple. They will also warn the population in Jerusalem to head for the hills when this abomination takes place.
Because I believe that John the Apostle is one of the Two Witnesses (Elijah the other) they will witness about several issues revealing the message of the Seven Thunders. They will also warn about the mark of the beast and strongly advise against taking it, for it will mean eternal damnation.
God is gracious, good and merciful, and will allow plenty of time for each soul to repent and receive the testimony of these Two Witnesses, before what they are witnessing about takes place when the Anti-Christ come into his full power. I also believe that the Anti-Christ will come into power on the same day that he has the Two Witnesses killed. That will be the first order of business on his agenda when he is indwelt by Satan.
Revelation 11:7 “…now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them.”
This also points to a literal 7 year tribulation…42 months for the Two Witnesses and 42 months for the Anti-Christ. It does not make any sense that God would send these Two Witnesses to witness during the time when the Anti-Christ comes into full power. Actually the fact that the Anti-Christ can kill them is proof that Satan has fallen from heaven and now rules the earth…for a short time. Both have been allowed by God, and after all He is in charge!!
I am totally open to anyone disputing my take on this, and ready and willing to see a better take on it.
May God love and bless you all, in Jesus’ name!!
Patti C.