From: Marilyn AgeeRe: GM (31 March 2012)
"Re Marilyn A re Paul Wilson and ascension day from Nisan 13"Hi:> > I really appreciate your thoughts and all of your posts. In the excerpt below, my question is regarding the death of Jesus on Nisan 13. I thought Jesus ate the Passover meal, which would be on Nisan 14-15 at dusk. Why am I in error thinking the Last Supper was the Passover meal?The Passover meal would be Nisan 13/14 at dusk. In Egypt, all the firstborn would have died 6 hours later, at midnight on Nisan 14, if Passover was at Nisan 14-15. Their days start at 6 PM on our previous day.Thanks for your kind words. My husband Ed beat me to Heaven, but not by much, 10 days less than 5 months. I think he will get his resurrection body Easter Sunday/Firstfruits, April 8. All that is left for me to do between now and the Rapture, which I think will be Ascension Day, May 17, 2012, is to keep posting, and the enemy is making that as hard as he is allowed to. Thank goodness I have the Lord on my side. If I didn’t, I’d be dead. I think the enemy tried to kill David, Ed and me. First, Dave had ruptured appendix and pneumonia, was in the hospital a month, got a bit of brain damage from fever at 110 one time and 108 another time. They had to ice him down both times. He can buy, sell, drive, etc., but he can’t ski anymore. That much physical coordination is gone. Next, Ed and I got pneumonia at the same time. Ed never walked again. Only by the grace of God am I here now. I have permanent fibrosis in my lungs. It doesn’t bother me, but it bothers the doctors.The Pharisees, Sadducees and Essenes fought over which day they should keep Passover, so it was kept by some on two different days. The Nazarenes of today explain the difference between days kept by the Pharisees and Sadducees. Right now, I can’t remember for sure which is which. James Trimm wrote a great article on it. Surely it is still on the Internet. Dr. Tabor would know too.In spite of unbelieving Jews claiming that Nisan 15 is the Passover, it is not. That is Satan using nonbelievers to play with our heads. Lev 23:5,6 couldn’t be clearer. It says, “In the FOURTEENTH DAY of the first month at even (i.e., 6 PM on our PREVIOUS day) is the LORD'S PASSOVER. 6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread”.Luk_22:15 says, “And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you BEFORE I suffer”. He died on the preparation of the Passover, Thursday.Of the day before Passover, John_18:28 says, “Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover.”Joh_13:1 says, “Now BEFORE THE FEAST OF THE PASSOVER, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.“Joh_19:14 says, “IT WAS THE PREPARATION OF THE PASSOVER, and about the sixth hour (9 AM, Roman time): and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! “Jesus ate the Passover meal a day early, because he was going to be dead as the Hebrews ate their Passover meal. He died as the priests at the Temple started killing the Passover lambs, BETWEEN THE EVENINGS, i.e., between 3 PM and 6 PM on Nisan 13. They had thousands of lambs to kill. They had to start about 3 PM on the previous day, the preparation day, to get the job done. The people had to roast their lamb and eat it before midnight.To see where “between the evenings” appears in the Hebrew Old Testament, search on Google. I would do it, as I have several times before, but I am trying to figure out how to use a different HTML editor to post to my site. Since my old computer died after my post on Jan 9, 2012, I have not been able to do it correctly. I got Pro and Con 1647 posted, but couldn’t install the pictures or links to it. As my grandson said, “Modern technology is your enemy now.” Why making things more complicated than before, like Window 7’s folders inside of folders inside of folders inside of folders, is called improvement is beyond me to understand. In Windows 7, I have to click 6 times to close one document, where in XP, one click would do it. That eats up my time for nothing. Yesterday, using a different HTML editor, every time I put in the breaks I wanted, when I saved it, the editor took out the breaks I just put in, and if I use their symbol instead of </ br>, I end up with exclamation marks where I don’t want them. Right now, I have published the updated Home Page, and it prints the actual HTML document. Why? I haven’t figured out yet. Something is wrong in the html code, I guess. I have never seen that before anywhere on the Internet. Oh well, I shouldn’t complain. I can post on Five Doves. The enemy would like to stop all my posts, but the Lord hasn’t allowed that. Thank you Lord. It shows he wants me to tell what I have learned.When in Egypt, the Hebrews only had between 6 PM (when Nisan 13 ended) and midnight on Nisan 14 to eat their passover lamb, or their firstborn would have died. That is just the first 6 hours of Nisan 14, which is a 24-hour day. There is no possible way that Passover could be Nisan 15, as the unbelieving Jews claim. The messianic Jews probably know the difference.About the day of the Crucifixion, John 19:14-16 is very clear. It says, “IT WAS THE PREPARATION OF THE PASSOVER (i.e., Nisan 13, when they killed the lambs), and about the sixth hour (9 AM, Roman time): and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! 15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar. 16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified.”Joh_19:31 says, “The Jews therefore, because IT WAS THE PREPARATION (Thursday), that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day, Friday, the Feast of Passover, an ANNUAL SABBATH) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. “Joh_19:42 says, “There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' PREPARATION DAY; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand.”Mat 27:62-64 says, “Now the next day (Friday, Passover), that followed the day of the preparation (Thursday), the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, 63, “Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days (on Sunday, after Thursday, Friday, and Saturday) I will rise again. 64, “Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.” I think Jesus came back on April 9, 30 AD, because he is coming back at the Second Advent on April 9, 2016.Jesus was dead before Passover arrived. Mar 15:42,43 says, “And now when the even (Thursday evening) was come, because IT WAS THE PREPARATION, that is, the day before the sabbath (Friday, Passover, the high day, an annual Sabbath), 43 says, “Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.”Luke 23:52-54 says, “This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. 53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid. 54 “And THAT DAY (Thursday) WAS THE PREPARATION (of the Passover), and the sabbath (Passover annual sabbath) drew on.”But what about Mt 26:17? Keep in mind that Jesus was dead before Passover, and that the Pharisees and Sadducees kept the Passover on different days. Scripture cannot contradict Scripture. It says, “Now the first (protos, foremost [in time, place, order or importance] before, beginning, best, chief [-est], FIRST [OF ALL], former) day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where (i.e, on Nisan 12) wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?” To understand this correctly, we need to be acquainted with their customs. In getting ready for the feast days, FIRST OF ALL, whichever day of Passover they kept, lest they should grab it in haste and use it without thinking on the busy day of preparation of food for the feast days, the careful Jews cleared the kitchen of leaven on the day before their day of preparation.The Passover was also called the feast of unleavened bread, because they did not eat leavened bread on Passover. Luk_22:1 Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover. Luk_22:7 speaks of one prior day of unleavened bread. It says, “Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed.”Mar_14:12 says, “And the first (protos, former, prior) day of unleavened bread, when they (the disciples) killed the passover (Nisan 12), his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?Mat_26:2 says, “Ye know that after two days (Wednesday, Nisan 12, and Thursday, Nisan 13) is the feast of the passover (Friday, Nisan 14), and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.Mar_14:1,2 says, “After two days (Wednesday, Nisan 12, and Thursday, Nisan 13) was the feast of the passover (Nisan 14), and of unleavened bread (Nisan 15): and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death. 2 But they said, NOT ON THE FEAST DAY, lest there be an uproar of the people.”Agape,Marilyn Agee
Marilyn,
I really appreciate your thoughts and all of your posts. In the excerpt below, my question is regarding the death of Jesus on Nisan 13. I thought Jesus ate the Passover meal, which would be on Nisan 14-15 at dusk. Why am I in error thinking the Last Supper was the Passover meal?
From: Marilyn Agee
Re: Paul Wilson (28 March 2012)
"April 12 2012"Hi:
(Excerpt)
Jesus’ birthday was Tishri 1, when the sign of Rev 12 was in the sky. He announced the Jubilee Year on the Day of Atonement near his birthday in 27 AD. The Jubilee was in 28 AD. He was crucified on Thursday, Nisan 13, 3790, April 6, 30 AD. He died about 3 PM when the priests were beginning to kill the Passover lambs at the Temple. Those lambs had to be baked and eaten before midnight on Passover, Friday, Nisan 14. If they hadn’t been eaten by midnight, six hours after Nisan 14 began, when they were in Egypt, their firstborn would have died.