Bruce,

I'm really not surprised at your question of:

" When do you believe the 70th Week began and what evidence do you point to?"

Now let me quote you from an earlier e-mail from you.

 " Subject: WHEN IS THE MID-POINT OF THE 70th WEEK OF DANIEL ?"

Because this quote above comes from your e-mail to me back on February 9th of this year. And subsequently we talked on the phone that evening for over an hour for me to give an answer to this very question! And that conversation coming after the this quote to which you started that e-mail.

" Hi Phil,

 

godstimeline.net is a great website!"

 Now then, why would you have thought it a great website, if you didn't bother to read or listen to the material? And not only did we discuss the "mid-point" of the 70th week, but also how and why it could be recognized as having started. And the same is true at the bottom of that article at www.godstimeline.net

" Now last night, my mother asked me; "how do we know when this 70th week represented by this "type" is to begin"?

I told her that it must then be seen as to belong to or pertain to other passages of prophetic scripture as to give it reference of time!  And as such, be able to see the historical fulfillment of them.  I told her that this period of time (Daniel's 70th week) is also referred to as "the time of Jacob's trouble"!

This reference is found in: Jeremiah 30:7!  I then told her about the "time of Jacob's trouble" as seen in type in the life of Jacob himself!

 

Then I told her of the Sabbaths of the Lord and the sabbatical cycles that were proclaimed as a statute by the Lord for Israel/ Jacob to keep!  And that this 70th week is and must be seen in the same regard to the Sabbatical cycles and their Sabbath days!"

This is exactly the same question my mother asked. And I guess you didn't bother to read this either. Because in it is the SAME answer that I gave you on Feb.9th of this year!

The part of my conversation that I didn't put in the article was what I regaled to John Molina the day before sending post to John.

-----Original Message----- 
From: hubdad@aol.com 
To: lmsurfdoc@aol.com 
Sent: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 10:01 am 
Subject: Re: Another reason 
 
yeah, but back to the other, even if they have been told or offered, if it isn't what the WANT to hear, it is as if they were never told! 
  
But whose fault is that??? 
  
Case in point. In talking to my mother (now blind) when she asked "how do we know when this week will start?" 

I told her that it would have to be connected directly with other prophetic scriptures so as to know when it would start by the fulfilling of what comes before it. She said "that makes perfect sense". I then told her about "the Time of Jacob's trouble" in that there are 3 consecutive set of 7 years, anyway I went in general of the scriptures to when they started in 1993 to 2000 for the 1st 7 years. And then because of time and her getting tired mor in general to the completion of the next 7. 
  
When done, she said "I have never heard of this concerning Jacob/ Rachel and Laban and Leah before!" 
  
I said, I HAVE TRIED TO TELL YOU THIS SINCE 2001-2 AND MORE EMPHATICALLY SINCE 2006! IN DETAIL OF THIS! AND ALL YOU DID WAS PLACATE ME NOD YOUR HEAD AND SAID THIS SOUND IVERY INTERESTING! WHEN ALL THE TIME YOU JUST TUNED ME OUT!!!! 
  
ALL SHE COULD SAY WAS "YOU ARE RIGHT"!!! 
  
YOU SEE. EVEN THOUGH A PREACHER CAN BE SENT...IT DOESNT MEAN THAT THE PEOPLE WILL WANT TO HEAR! BUT THE ONES WHO DO WANT TO HEAR ie. You and Kevin and Christy, the Lord does open the truth to them and makes it real to them! "

And I see that you were no different back on February 9th. during our phone conversation. You were just placating me in hoping I was going to tell you what you wanted to hear to support your own beliefs on prophecy and their fulfilling of them.

Now to anyone in the continental USA, if you would like to talk to me on these things which I teach at "God's Timeline", I would be more than happy to do so. I get such a thrill anytime I'm able to preach on Jesus Christ and His coming Kingdom! Warning; I'm passionate, but I don't bite! Now in the Cont. USA, if you do not have FREE unlimited nationwide calling, then I do!

And I will be happy to call you at anytime of the day or night!  Just e-mail me at my A.O.L address. to set up a time and day.

But please, don't want to talk in hopes to change my mind or position. I have been preaching on God's Timeline since 1998, the Day of the Lord since 2000 the Time of Jacob's trouble since 2001, the "70th week of Daniel" starting in 2007 since 2006;  along with WHY the resurrection/ rapture could ONLY happen in the 4th year or the "midst of the week" since 2006! Nothing in the timing of all this has ever changed from the beginning of this till now.

So don't want to call just to placate me! Set up a time to call and talk if you are really interested! Don't waste your time or mine! And I do not want to hear how great or wonderful the website is or how wonderfully blessed  (or not) you are by what I teach! I really don't care what you think of the website or me! We don't have that much time left!

Now back to you Bruce, the answer you seek for your question is still in the same place!  When in Feb. of this year you said;   www.godstimeline.net

is a great website!

That is where you will find out when the 70th week started and most importantly...WHY!  The evidence by scripture and the historical fulfilling of them to date. Including the continuous Sabbatical cycles which this event or "type" in John's account definitely portrays!

These MUST be seen exactly as this "type' portrays, going back to 1993 with the start of the "Time of Jacob's Trouble"! EACH  seven year period of Jacob's Trouble BEGINS with a Sabbatical year! Just as this "type" by the definition of the feast of Tabernacles shows. If the last 7 years (the 70th week of Daniel) ends this way, then the previous two sets of seven years must precede in the same pattern!

In looking for Christ's soon coming and Kingdom;

Phil Rogers

(ok- e-mail address is hubdad@aol.com)