"Confusion about Tribulation"
When you pull a verse out of its setting to create a doctrine you risk false doctrine.
Instead of keeping the verses in their context you get a pretext. This is violating the rules of hermenuetics.
is so easy to do that. So many cults have sprung up for doing
that very same thing. The first verse in its context you referred
to is talking about the calamity brought on by other humans or
anotherwords, persecution by others towards christians, or just basic
hardship, not God's judgement.
The other is referring to
Dan. chapter 9, the 70th week, a full set of 7 years. For the
Christian, God judged us on the Cross of Calvary where he judged sin,
once and for all for the believer. We do not come under that kind
of Judgement again. Rather at the Beama seat it is what we have
done for Christ, our works, that get rewarded or burned up as
chaff. We will always be with the Lord.
The 7 year
tribulation is again God's judgement regarding Israel, the Antichrist
and non-believers. In His grace and mercy, God will always have a
remnant, and in the course of this final judgement from God, there will
be those who decide to not follow the Antichrist and False Prophet and
give up their lives for follow Jesus.
We forget Daniel
is praying for the CONCERNS OF ISRAEL, not the Church for it was a
mystery that Paul spoke of in Ephesians. The church was hidden
until the birthing of it at Pentecost. That final 7 years is
again dealing with Israel, keeping it in the context of
scripture. We are not Israel. The Body of Christ which cannot be
severed (ie; the Bride of Christ), which again acccording to Ephesians
as we are sealed unto the Day of Redemption, is whole, complete and
will go in that great Rapture prior to the 7 year tribulation, or Day
of Christ, or Jacob's trouble. Both the Body of Christ and Bride
of Christ are synonymous terms. They are one and the same, just
as the 7 year trib, Jacob's trouble, Day of Christ, all being
synonymous meaning the same event.
The church is not
mentioned after chapter 5 in Revelation. Chapter 6-18 deal with
Israel's redemption and God's judgement of the unrighteous. In
Matt 24 Jesus is answering the question asked by his disciples about
the Jewish Temple and the Nation of Israel as they did not see the
church until after the Resurrection and Ascension, and then
Pentecost. Jesus is dealing again with the "birthpangs" leading
up to the Abomination of Desolation, again dealing with Israel.
He is referring to that same 7 year tribulation through the eyes of a
You would have to consider yourself as
one of the disciples, a Jewish man who had been looking for their
Messiah and thought that Jesus was going to bring about Israel's rescue
from the Romans and bringing in at that time the Messianic Kingdom, a
physical Messianic Kingdom where He would rule on the throne of David.
all about keeping the the verses in their setting, understanding the
historocity of their time and looking at their world through their own
The best work I have found done on this is written
by Dwight Pentecost, "Things To Come". Also, I know I have
referred to Ramm's work on Hermenuetics, or the study of Interpretation
of Scripture, which includes exegesis.
Anyway, that is my thoughts and concerns on this matter. Hope that this is the week of our homegoing. AMEN?!