http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2008/jim916.htm   Jim,   Thank you for re posting these scripture references that show what are the 2008th and 2009th chapters of the bible. They do undeniably speak of the rapture and the tribulation to follow respectively to occur in the years 2008 and 2009. If anyone does not yet have the "Instaverse" program and would like it, the free download is at:   http://www.instaverse.com/   This program allows you to place your curser over the scripture reference eg. John 3:16, and that scripture will be popped up instantly for easy reading in the context where it is found. This makes it very easy and convenient to check these chapters to see that there is truth to the claim. BTW, I pre ordered David Flynn's book when I first heard about it and have been eagerly awaiting it (originally expected by Sept. 11) only to get an e mail from Amazon that it is now delayed until late Sept or early Oct. Oh thanks, lot of good it will do then, huh? Maybe God intends it for those left behind?   Praise God!   Barry Amundsen