Thanks Neil L. for sharing this with us, Im also sure that we in a way are connected to what happen among the Jews and in Israel. I believe that we are 1. fase-point-part in that great "puzzle" redeemings-plan of God. And Im sure that the Lord take us Home soon, and then give the call back to the Jews and nation of Israel. I think we allready can see this happen for our eyes, we even see good contacts, between some orthodoks jews and christians, - all Praise and Glory to our God.

 

Of course I hope for that the rapture, will end in a great revival among those left behind. But I cant see, as other says, they can see, that we after to have been changed with the coming of Jesus, shall be back on earth for any mission ? - it is not what I read out of the 1.Tessalonians chpt. 4:17.v. Rev. chpt.12:5.v. or in Matthew chpt. 8:10-12.v. and John chpt. 14:1-4.v. - and so on. - am I wrong, then feel free to correct me !

 

So thanks Neil for your reminder about the years and months, who play a role in the establishment of the nation of Israel, its good to know, if still not now ?

 

Have a blessed time and future in the love of Jesus, - Maranatha, - Jan Mikael ! - ><> waiting for Jesus <><

 

 

Neil Lipken (10 Sep 2007)
"30-30-30 years and the November-September Connection"  

November of 1917, November of 1947, and November of 1977 saw powerful events occurring for the Jewish people, and, of course, Israel.  The Balfour Declaration of Nov. 2, 1917 began large scale Jewish immigration into Palestine for the first time since the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD.  The UN Mandate for Palestine on Nov. 29, 1947 gave the go-ahead for Israel to be born as a nation (it happened on May 14, 1948), and Nov. of 1977 saw the very beginning of the "peace process" as we know it today with Anwar Sadat flying to Jerusalem.  Thirty years of immigration, then thirty years of war with no peace process, and now nearly thirty years of a Middle East peace process.
 
Why thirty years?  Jesus began his ministry at age 30.  David became king at age 30.  And in Numbers 4 the Jewish people were numbered from the age of 30 up to 50.  The number 30 is a kind of "coming of age for beginning service or usefullness" for the Lord.  Here is a little known fact (actually only known by my friends!).  I was born again at age 29 and 1/2 (I am a Jewish Christian), and right after I turned age 30, I began teaching end time Bible prophecy.
 
It does not take a "rocket scientist" to figure out when the next thirty year period ends--November of 2007!  Not so surprisingly the Middle East peace process has intensified over this past summer and is now moving forward very fast.  Surprisingly, however, the mainstream media has by and large been very silent about the "peace push" in the Middle East.  Since huge events for the Jewish people and Israel have occurred every thirty years to the month since November of 1917, one must wonder what might be the event for this coming November.  Remember, this must be a huge event just as beginning immigration, founding the nation of Israel, and for the first time starting a peace process all were.  In my opinion the only thing that would be of such large magnitude would be the coming false peace of the Daniel 9:27 covenant (beginning the 7 year Tribulation Period leading to the Second Coming of Christ at the conclusion of the 7 years).
 
So, what's with November?  Why have the huge scale events for the Jewish people and Israel occurred in November of their respective years?  It comes down to an understanding of the seven Jewish feasts of Lev. 23.  The whole story is far too much to go into here.  I will keep it simple.  New Testament events fulfilled Old Testament feasts.  Jesus died on Passover, He rose on the Feast of First Fruits (now known as Easter), and the Holy Spirit descended on Pentecost.  Since the Lord fulfilled First Coming events in the spring of the year on the feast dates, why would He not fulfill end time events on the dates of the fall feasts?  The Rapture closely corrresponds to the Feast of Trumpets (Rosh Hashanah), and the Second Coming closely corresponds to the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur).  So, we would expect the Rapture to occur around Rosh Hashanah, and the Second Coming to occur around Yom Kippur in their respective years.  But that means that the Daniel 9:27 covenant would have to be signed 7 years earlier around Yom Kippur, which usually occurs in September!  So why November?
 
We are told in Matt. 24 that the Great Tribulation is shortened, otherwise no flesh would be alive at the time of the Second Coming.  The mechanism of shortening is found in Rev. 8:12.  During the Great Tribulation (last 3 1/2 years of Daniel's 70th Week or 7 year Tribulation Period), each day is shortened by 1/3rd.  That ultimately shortens the Great Tribulation as a whole by 1/3rd.  One third of 3 years and 6 months is 1 year and 2 MONTHS.  It is this 2 MONTHS that is very important!  If the Daniel 9:27 covenant is signed 2 MONTHS later than expected (one would expect Sept. around Yom Kippur), then when the Great Tribulation is completed, that shortening of 1 year and 2 MONTHS would place the Second Coming at its normal expected time in Sept. around Yom Kippur!  Now, that is why November is such an important month for the coming Daniel 9:27 covenant!  Even if it did not happen this year, I would still expect the covenant to be signed in November of a coming year!
 
With all of the "peace push" on this 30 year anniversary for a "final accord" to be reached for Middle East peace by November of this year, one has to wonder!  Will this November be the time for the Daniel 9:27 covenant?.  Remember, only the antichrist can make the Daniel 9:27 covenant!  Human effort alone will not do it!  And for the antichrist to be released onto the world stage, the Rapture must happen first!  Only time will tell (and not much time at that!), but if this 30th year anniversary of the peace process is to be the Daniel 9:27 covenant, then the Rapture would be happening EXTREMELY SOON, possibly even this coming week!  Rosh Hashanah starts at sundown this coming Wednesday (Sept. 12th), and the orthodox Jewish people view it as a two day feast (Thurs. & Friday this week).
 
Remember the story about "Chris" posted here at FiveDoves.  He believes that the Lord spoke to him and told him that he (Chris) will be with the Lord in heaven by Friday, Sept. 14th!  What makes Chris' story so interesting is that Chris may not be aware of Rosh Hashanah on Sept. 13th and 14th!  He did not mention Rosh Hashanah at all in his story!
 
Now, the only thing to do is to "tip-toe" into this week that will feature Rosh Hashanah!  If this is not to be the year of the Daniel 9:27 covenant, then the Rapture will not occur.  If this is to be the year of the Daniel 9:27 covenant, then the Rapture will occur!  There is a small chance that the Rapture might occur one one of the "days of awe" that are between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur.  According to Jewish tradition (not scriptural), the "portals of heaven" are opened at Rosh Hashanah and closed at Yom Kippur.
 
NOW, WE WAIT!  Please do not bite off too many fingernails!