TJ (2 Sep 2006)
"Ellen Gonzalez--WAYNEGOLDENEAGLE---Phil"


Thank you all for the responses.  
 
  
 Ellen Gonzalez
 
  If Jesus died on Friday at 3PM and rose on Sunday at 4AM that is not even 48 hours that He was dead. 3 days and 3 nights? I don't think so, by anyone's calculations.
 
 Question: The Gospel says that the Son of Man will spend three days and three nights in the depths of the earth, comparing the death of Jesus to the story of Jonah (Mt.12:40). But Jesus died on Good Friday at 3 PM and resurrected on Easter Sunday early in the morning (Mk.15:25, 34, 37, 16:9).
    Answer: Jesus resurrected "on the third day" (Lk.24:7): The Orientals reckon any part of the day as a whole day (Esther 4:16, 5:1, 15:1). Thus, one whole day and two parts of two days, along with two nights would popularly style as "three days and three nights". Such usage is seen elsewhere in the Scriptures. "The third day" of Mt.27:64 is used as being identical with "after three days" of Mt.27:63. The Gospels use both expressions meaning the same, from Friday afternoon to Sunday morning: "After three days", on Mt.27:3, Mk.8:31, 10:34, Jn.2:19. And "the third day", Mt.16:21, 17:23, 20:19, 27:64, Lk.9:22, 24:7,21,46.

    WAYNEGOLDENEAGLE

TJ REPORTS THAT THE ROMANIAN ASTRONOMERS PUT JESUS CRUCIFIXION AT AD 33, BECAUSE OF A SOLAR ECLIPSE ON THAT DAY. THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE SINCE PASSOVER ALWAYS FALLS ON A FULL MOON AND THE SUN AND THE MOON ARE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE EARTH. 
 
The article says solar eclipse and I believe thats an error it was a Lunar eclipse that occured that night not a solar.
 
THE REPORT OF PONTIUS PILATE, PROCURATOR OF JUDAEA, SENT TO ROME TO TIBERIUS CAESAR. (NON CANONIZED)
 
And when he had been crucified, there was darkness over the whole earth, the sun having been completely hidden, and the heaven appearing dark though it was day, so that the stars appeared, but had at the same time their brightness darkened, as I suppose your reverence is not ignorant of, because in all the world they lighted lamps from the sixth hour until evening. And the moon, being like blood, did not shine the whole night, and yet she happened to be at the full. And the stars also, and Orion, made a lament about the Jews, on account of the wickedness that had been done by them. http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0809B.htm
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The Celestial Dirge   (top)

The answer to that question fixes the date of the crucifixion with precision. Beyond reasonable doubt, in fact, because a "blood moon" has a specific meaning. In ancient literature, not only the Bible, it means a lunar eclipse. Why bloody? Because when the moon is in eclipse it is in the Earth's shadow. It receives no direct light from the sun, but is lit only by the dim light refracted and red-shifted by the Earth's atmosphere. The moon in eclipse does glow a dull red, as you know if you have seen it.
This matters, because with Kepler's equations we can determine exactly when historical eclipses occurred. Perhaps it will not surprise you to learn that only one Passover lunar eclipse was visible from Jerusalem while Pilate was in office (30). It occurred on April 3, 33 AD, the Day of the Cross.
That day followed a night of horrors predicted by the prophet Isaiah. In place of sleep for Jesus there were torch-lit hours of interrogation and mockery, spittle in the face and beatings, barbed lashes tearing flesh from his back and thorns pressed into his scalp. Isaiah wrote that the messiah would be beaten until "marred beyond human likeness" (31). And so, Jesus was brutalized during multiple "trials" and retrials before priests Annas and Caiaphas (32), King Herod (33) and Roman prefect Pontius Pilate (34). In the end, his fate was decided by a mob (35). He was marched to Golgotha, the "place of the skull," and crucified. He would die within six hours.
The gospels tell the chronology. Hammers thudded spikes through Jesus and into the cross at 9 AM (36). He was raised up. At noon and for three hours the sky was darkened (29). In the Temple at Jerusalem, only priests were permitted to enter the presence of God—a thick curtain excluded common men. During the crucifixion, this veil was torn apart, top to bottom, as a shattering earthquake split rocks and broke open tombs (37). In the darkness and tumult of these signs, even the Roman guards regreted their part in the killing (38). Jesus died at 3 PM (39). He was removed from the cross before nightfall to preserve the sanctity of the impending Passover (40). But the signs and wonders did not end. When the moon rose that evening, it was blood red. We can imagine the wonder of those who were present through all of this, and their increasing dread as the signs kept coming.
But there is more which they could not see. Kepler's equations indicate that the moon rose already in eclipse, already bloody, fulfilling Joel's vision. Necessarily, this means that the eclipse commenced before moonrise. With software we can look below the horizon and see Earth's shadow begin the eclipse. When we do, we find that at 3 PM, as Jesus was breathing his last on the cross, the moon was going to blood.
The sky at Christ's birth can be viewed as a kind of visual poetry, with the new moon symbolically "birthed" at the foot of Virgo, the virgin. To complete that celestial poem, on the night of Jesus' death the moon had returned to the foot of the virgin. But now it was a full moon. A life fully lived, blotted out in blood.  http://www.bethlehemstar.net/day/day.htm

Phil
 
Hi
 
Harold W Hoehner , Arthur Bedford  it was also one of Isaac Newtons alternate dates for the crucifixion.  He actually had narrowed it down to two dates and this was one of the two the other was April 23, 34 A.D. and he chose the later over April 3, 33 A.D.  due to the ripeness of corn.  This is a popular date April 3, 33 A.D. as many others choose this date too.    Odd that 40 days later is May 15th.  You know I dont even think the people that picked this date even are aware that 40 days later is May 15th.
 
There are arguements that can probably debunk the date of April 3, 33 A.D. as  it is not  a concrete date for the crucifixion.  I wish I knew the exact date but I like reading all the different viewpoints.  The dates are 29 A.D. to 34 A.D. at the latest for the crucifixion. 
 
 Thank you for your info.