Marilyn Agee (26 Oct 2014)
"John Clark (19 Oct 2014) RE: BIBLICAL PROOF that there are 1260 days between the two Raptures before the Great Tribulation is shortened"


From: Marilyn Agee
 
BIBLICAL PROOF THAT THERE ARE 1260 DAYS BETWEEN THE TWO RAPTURES BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION IS SHORTENED
 
Hi:
 
> > looking at the calendar for the next year on the Karaite Korner website, I found that there will be an anticipated 110 day interval between Pentecost and the Feast of Trumpets in 2015. If this 110 day interval holds up for later dates which might be associated toward the end of the beasts allotted time, it would have the coming-out of a cleansed and persecuted church, who has made their robes white, on a future Pentecost. It kind of fits, doesn't it?
 
I am glad you are searching for clues, but I can’t see a fit there. The days in a Hebrew month do not change between Pentecost and the Feast of Trumpets in any year. The first month that can change is Cheshvan.
 
Nisan has 30 days.
Iyar has 29 days.
Sivan has 30 days.
Tamuz has 29 days.
Av has 30 days.
Elul has 29 days.
Tishri has 30 days.
Cheshvan has either 29 or 30 days.
 
For your comparison, below are the scriptures in the KJV, plus my comments.
 
BOTH RAPTURES ARE IN REVELATION 11, AND THERE ARE ONLY 42 MONTHS (3.5 YEARS) BETWEEN THEM, BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION IS SHORTENED
 
The “RISE” in Rev. 11:1 is the same as the “COME UP HITHER” of Rev. 4:1. Both speak of the First-Trump Rapture.
 
Rev 10:11 says, “And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.”
 
BOTH CHAPTERS 4 AND 11 START OFF WITH THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE
 
Rev 4:1 says, “After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.”
 
Rev 11:1,2 says,  “And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (i.e., in the First-Trump Rapture), and measure the temple of God (i.e., we are the temple of God), and the altar, and them (i.e., the saints) that worship therein. 2  But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months” (i.e., the last half of the Tribulation, called the Great Tribulation).
 
2Co_6:16 says, “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.”
 
ONLY 42 MONTHS SEPARATE THE TWO RAPTURES, ONE AT MID-TRIB AND THE OTHER ON THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF GOD’S WRATH AT THE END OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION
 
Therefore,  there cannot be seven years between the two Raptures (as I used to think).
 
“Rise” in Rev. 11:1 is egeiro, lift up, take up, rouse from death. It is the First-Trump Rapture.
 
THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE IN REV. 11:12 IS ON THE DAY OF GOD’S WRATH
 
Rev 11:12,13 says, “And they (i.e., Moses and Elijah) heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. (Therefore, those left behind can see the raptured saints going up) 13  And the same hour was there a great earthquake (i.e., the asteroid Wormwood impacted Earth), and the tenth part of the city (i.e., Jerusalem) fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.”
 
That “COME UP HITHER” is the Last-Trump Rapture. There is no earthquake at the First-Trump Rapture. There is a gigantic earthquake at the Last-Trump Rapture. The 24 elders are present both times.
 
This is not the Second Advent. That is still future, but Jesus is ruling. He is seated as judge at the Judgment Seat of Christ on the day of the last Rapture. While he is being seated, there is silence in both Heaven and Earth.
 
Rev 8:1 says, “And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.”
 
Hab_2:20 says, “But the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the earth keep silence before him.”
 
Rev 11:17,18 says, “We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18  And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.”
 
ONLY 42 MONTHS BETWEEN THE TWO RAPTURES
 
There are 42 months (3.5 years, or 1260 days) between the First-Trump Rapture (Mid-Trib) and the Last-Trump Rapture (on the Day of God’s Wrath at the end of the Tribulation, Rev 6:17; 7-9-14).
 
2Th 2:1-4 says, “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2  That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (i.e., this is day of the Lord in 3 of our oldest Codices, see below) is at hand. 3  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away (apostasia, departure, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4  Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God (i.e., Mid-Trib), shewing himself that he is God.”
 
1. The Sinaitic Codex, 331 AD
2. The Alexandrine Codex, 1078 AD
3. The Vatican Codex, 1475 or 1481 AD
Copies of these were found after the KJV was translated in 1611.
 
THE WHOLE 2300-DAY TRIBULATION
 
Dan 8:11-14 says, “Yea, he (i.e., the False Prophet) magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away (Mid-Trib), and the place of his sanctuary (i.e., on the asteroid Wormwood) was cast down. 12  And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. 13  Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14  And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.”
 
Dan 9:27 “And he (i.e., the Roman prince that shall come) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (i.e., 7 years): and in the midst of the week (i.e., at Mid-Trib) he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations (i.e., idols) he shall make it (i.e., the Temple Mount) desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate” (or desolator).
 
Dan 11:31 “And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.”
 
Dan 11:45 “And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.”
 
Rev 8:10,11 says, “And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;  11  And the name of the star (aster) is called WORMWOOD: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.”
 
CONCLUSION
 
There are two Raptures. The First-Trump Rapture of I Thess 4:13-18 is Mid-Trib. The Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54 is on the Day of the Lord at the end of the Tribulation. The shortened Great Tribulation takes place between the two Raptures.
 
Dan 12:6-10 says, “And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? 7  And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half (i.e., 3.5 years); and when he shall have accomplished to scatter (naphats, dash in pieces) the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. 8  And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9 Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10  Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.”
 
Agape,
Marilyn Agee
mjagee@verizon.net
prophecycorner.theforeverfamily.com
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John Clark (19 Oct 2014) 
"RE: "Discovery of the 1335 days spoken of in Daniel 12v12"  Mark C (12 Oct 2014)"



RE: "Discovery of the 1335 days spoken of in Daniel 12v12"                   Mark C (12 Oct 2014)

Blessings Mark.

I was quite interested in reading about your connection between Pentecost and the Feast of Trumpets. (I was unable to open your chart, and my Internet provider downloaded all but the last 30 seconds of your video.). The Lord took me on an in-depth investigation of Daniel chapter 8 during August and September of this year. Multiple revelations came from that study, including the identification of the abomination that leads to desolation. The result of this "abomination," will be a judgment and purging of the church. This is when the Father allows the beast to persecute, terrorize and martyr the believers. (See Revelation 11:1 – 2, and Psalm 50). The "abomination," will result in the, taking away of the continual for 2300 evenings and mornings.

Dan 8:11     And unto the prince of the host it exerteth itself, and by it taken away hath been the continual sacrifice, and thrown down the base of his sanctuary.
Dan 8:12     And the host is given up, with the continual sacrifice, through transgression, and it throweth down truth to the earth, and it hath worked, and prospered.
Dan 8:13     'And I hear a certain holy one speaking, and a certain holy one saith to the wonderful numberer who is speaking: Till when is the vision of the continual sacrifice, and of the transgression, an astonishment, to make both sanctuary and host a treading down?
Dan 8:14     And he saith unto me, Till evening -- morning two thousand and three hundred, then is the holy place declared right.
Dan 8:26     And the appearance of the evening and of the morning, that is told, is true; and thou, hide thou the vision, for it is after many days.'

Dan 11:31     And strong ones out of him stand up, and have polluted the sanctuary, the stronghold, and have turned aside the continual sacrifice, and appointed the desolating abomination.

2300 evenings and mornings equals 1150 days. The beast is given 1260 days, along with the two witnesses (mentioned in the same paragraph in Revelation 11). I had noted that the effects of this abomination of desolation was 110 days shorter than the time given to the beast and the two witnesses. I came to the understanding that this was the, "for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."
Mat 24:15     ¶     When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 
Mat 24:21           For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 
Mat 24:22           And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 

I then went searching for a "110 day" interval. My search was limited because this was not the primary area that the Holy Spirit was taking me. But looking at the calendar for the next year on the Karaite      Korner website, I found that there will be an anticipated 110 day interval between Pentecost and the Feast of Trumpets in 2015. If this 110 day interval holds up for later dates which might be associated toward the end of the beasts allotted time, it would have the coming-out of a cleansed and persecuted church, who has made their robes white, on a future Pentecost. It kind of fits, doesn't it?

Shalom,
John